[MD] Essentials for target practice

[John Carl]

When I said  "pre-realized sense of being" I meant the "pre" part to signify
that realization of being comes before conceptualization of nothing.

Which is no great realization, that's for sure,  just an obvious statement.

And yeah, I pretty much agree with your disparagement of nothingness's
ontological status.

And not only that, I actually enjoyed your witty polemic.  Woo hoo.  Will
wonders never cease.

However, dmb, you really ought to be a bit more open to Royce, who is after
all the foremost expert of all time on the teaching and ideas of William
James.

But hey, to each his own.

Thanks anyway for barging in and saying what a boring conversation we were
having.

What sort of writing would you consider, "good ideas"?  Give me an example
so we know where you're coming from.

I mean, a new idea, of course.  Something fundamentally different than
"liberal - good; conservative

ba--ah-ah-d"

John

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:11 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> John said to Ham:
> I still have problems with nothingness.  I'd posit that we conceptualize
> nothingness from a pre-realized sense of being.  Nothingness is just too
> "not there" for any kind of perceptual distinguishing.
>
> dmb says:
> Well, I don't know what "a pre-realized sense of being" is supposed mean.
> But I think "nothingness" is just a reified abstraction of a very unfancy
> idea. We can say there is "nothing" in my pocket or there is "nothing" in my
> hand. But when "nothingness" itself is posited as a existential reality or
> an ontological fact, then you've gone off the deep end. You mistakenly
> turned an idea into a thing. And then you marvel at what a mysterious thing
> it is, becoming awestruck by a fiction. An example of actual "nothingness"
> would include my interest in "nothingness". It would be fun to diagram my
> interests in the form of a pie chart.
>
>
> O
>
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>
> Please notice the absence of the red area. It represents "nothingness". The
> blue area represents my interest in Absolute Idealism, by the way, and the
> white area represents my interest in good ideas.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> dmb
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