[MD] Social Intellectual

Ian Glendinning ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Wed Jul 21 04:02:59 PDT 2010


Jeez Marsha, you have successfully changed the thread.

I was supporting a statement of Bo's and asking what words he would use. End of.

If you want to argue as to whether posts contain "just" words - please
start another thread ... you yourself detected "violence" in the posts
- in your own words. If you want to comment about "some people's"
behaviour in general, please stop addressing them to me ... or I may
take offence ;-)

Ian

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:46 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
> Ian,
>
> Develop meditation first, and then your questions will change, and you
> may understand the answers differently.  I do not get the violence, by some,
> towards Bo.  It represents such disharmony, whether he is understood or
> not.  After all these posts ARE comprised of "just" words.  I think nobody on
> this list gets that these are just bits and pieces of pattern, and not swords
> and rocks.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>
>> Yes, Marsha, I understand you - I can see problems with the words (all
>> words in fact) I use zillions of scare quotes etc ...
>>
>> But having meditated what word do you suggest I /we use in the next
>> email or are we to meditate INSTEAD OF communicate in words.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just using the accepted word - "manipulation of symbols" - Marsha
>>>
>>> whatever...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The point of the question (to Boristotlists or SIMians) is say it in your words.
>>>> What these subjects and objects are .... words in sentences ?
>>>
>>> Self and objects are a case of mistaken identity.
>>>
>>>
>>>> variables in equations ? representing concepts ? If you don't like the
>>>> language - stop complaining and make a positive suggestion.
>>>
>>> The word 'held' also presumes someone to hold subjects and objects.
>>> Really, you should try meditation and see for yourself.
>>>
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:28 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In your words - without resorting to the word mind - how are these
>>>>>> subjects and objects held, manipulated, in intellect ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems that your question assumes a manipulator.  Maybe an intellect
>>>>> can be considered a collection of favored intellectual patterns?  Favored
>>>>> by an individual or community.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>> ___
>>>>>
>>>>>
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