[MD] Social Intellectual
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Wed Jul 21 04:15:07 PDT 2010
On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
> Jeez Marsha, you have successfully changed the thread.
Right! Your "(to Boristotlists or SIMians)" was just a bit of kindness
and understanding.
whatever...
Marsha
>
> I was supporting a statement of Bo's and asking what words he would use. End of.
>
> If you want to argue as to whether posts contain "just" words - please
> start another thread ... you yourself detected "violence" in the posts
> - in your own words. If you want to comment about "some people's"
> behaviour in general, please stop addressing them to me ... or I may
> take offence ;-)
>
> Ian
>
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:46 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> Develop meditation first, and then your questions will change, and you
>> may understand the answers differently. I do not get the violence, by some,
>> towards Bo. It represents such disharmony, whether he is understood or
>> not. After all these posts ARE comprised of "just" words. I think nobody on
>> this list gets that these are just bits and pieces of pattern, and not swords
>> and rocks.
>>
>>
>> Marsha
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, Marsha, I understand you - I can see problems with the words (all
>>> words in fact) I use zillions of scare quotes etc ...
>>>
>>> But having meditated what word do you suggest I /we use in the next
>>> email or are we to meditate INSTEAD OF communicate in words.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just using the accepted word - "manipulation of symbols" - Marsha
>>>>
>>>> whatever...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The point of the question V is say it in your words.
>>>>> What these subjects and objects are .... words in sentences ?
>>>>
>>>> Self and objects are a case of mistaken identity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> variables in equations ? representing concepts ? If you don't like the
>>>>> language - stop complaining and make a positive suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> The word 'held' also presumes someone to hold subjects and objects.
>>>> Really, you should try meditation and see for yourself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:28 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In your words - without resorting to the word mind - how are these
>>>>>>> subjects and objects held, manipulated, in intellect ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems that your question assumes a manipulator. Maybe an intellect
>>>>>> can be considered a collection of favored intellectual patterns? Favored
>>>>>> by an individual or community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>
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