[MD] Social Intellectual

[MarshaV]

Ian,

Hey, I'm not the enemy, I know you get it.  Geez.... 


Marsha 



On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:

> God, kindness and understanding as well as violence - so much more
> than words in email posts you see.
> 
> (BTW that fun phrase was from the response to you, not the question to
> Bo which you intercepted.)
> Ian
> 
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:15 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>> 
>>> Jeez Marsha, you have successfully changed the thread.
>> 
>> 
>> Right!  Your "(to Boristotlists or SIMians)" was just a bit of kindness
>> and understanding.
>> 
>> whatever...
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I was supporting a statement of Bo's and asking what words he would use. End of.
>>> 
>>> If you want to argue as to whether posts contain "just" words - please
>>> start another thread ... you yourself detected "violence" in the posts
>>> - in your own words. If you want to comment about "some people's"
>>> behaviour in general, please stop addressing them to me ... or I may
>>> take offence ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Ian
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:46 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ian,
>>>> 
>>>> Develop meditation first, and then your questions will change, and you
>>>> may understand the answers differently.  I do not get the violence, by some,
>>>> towards Bo.  It represents such disharmony, whether he is understood or
>>>> not.  After all these posts ARE comprised of "just" words.  I think nobody on
>>>> this list gets that these are just bits and pieces of pattern, and not swords
>>>> and rocks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 6:17 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, Marsha, I understand you - I can see problems with the words (all
>>>>> words in fact) I use zillions of scare quotes etc ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> But having meditated what word do you suggest I /we use in the next
>>>>> email or are we to meditate INSTEAD OF communicate in words.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ian
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:59 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 3:53 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just using the accepted word - "manipulation of symbols" - Marsha
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> whatever...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The point of the question V is say it in your words.
>>>>>>> What these subjects and objects are .... words in sentences ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Self and objects are a case of mistaken identity.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> variables in equations ? representing concepts ? If you don't like the
>>>>>>> language - stop complaining and make a positive suggestion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The word 'held' also presumes someone to hold subjects and objects.
>>>>>> Really, you should try meditation and see for yourself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:28 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 2:39 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In your words - without resorting to the word mind - how are these
>>>>>>>>> subjects and objects held, manipulated, in intellect ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Seems that your question assumes a manipulator.  Maybe an intellect
>>>>>>>> can be considered a collection of favored intellectual patterns?  Favored
>>>>>>>> by an individual or community.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>> 
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