[MD] Re Arlo

[Magnus Berg]

Hi Andy

On 2010-07-26 17:09, Andy Skelton wrote:
> Yea, Arlo. The MoQ is an intellectual pattern, a static latching point
> reached by Pirsig after a Dynamic forward leap. It is a map of territory. To
> say that a map of Austin is a subset of a map of Texas is not to invoke
> recursion, even if you are standing in Austin looking at the map of Texas.

The sad part is that these people don't recognize that the MoQ *is* an 
intellectual pattern. They claim it's some magical mystic stuff above 
intellectual. Words like bootstrapping, upheaval and the like are often 
included in their description of Pirsig's divine metamorphosis of SOM.

	Magnus



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> Andy
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> On Jul 26, 2010 10:36 AM, "ARLO J BENSINGER JR"<ajb102 at psu.edu>  wrote:
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> [Platt]
> By making the intellectual level a subset of the MOQ, thereby avoiding the
> disharmony of rec...
> [Arlo]
> Disharmony in recursion?! Tell that to Escher! Or Goedel! Or Bach!!
>
> All "metaphysics", of any kind, ALL descriptions of reality are a subset of
> the
> reality they describe. The MOQ is no different. It is not apart from the
> reality it describes.
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