[MD] Social Intellectual

[Ian Glendinning]

Hi Marsha (and Bo), I see DMB already replied, but you addressed a
question to me (I think) ...

The social level (like all levels, as I said) will keep evolving - of
course it's the patterns within it that do the evolving - they are the
species. It (its contents) will evolve into something different to the
current / pre-existing social level. As has happened already it can
and will evolve patterns that are part of the intellectual level - the
first such patterns that did so, evolved the intellectual level
itself. (as DMB said too)

Next, I get confused .... are you still talking to me ?
None have demonstrated ... etc.
Do you think that if ... you understand .... etc.
There have been ... etc.

I think you are making pejorative statements about people's behaviours
in general. As I've said before if you have such a complaint about me
I'd prefer it if you were specific with examples.

My view - in MoQ-Discuss emails it is difficult to work with anything
but S's and O's - it's the nature of language - but plenty use
artistic rhetoric and poetics and links to parallel interests that
break the dialectic patterns. I wouldn't generalise the negative
criticism (if that's what it was).

I think there is plenty of non-S-O / Quality thinking being
demonstrated, but clearly you have to read between the S-O lines of
the language to see the quality .... as we all did at least once with
Pirsig.

Since Bo was the subject at hand .... Bo is in fact the least able to
argue his way out of his SOMist prison in my experience .... resorting
to insults when he doesn't understand an argument and never returning
to points made to him that might help us all out of that
straight-jacket.

Regards
Ian


On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:47 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 22, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>
>>
>> Bo > Intellect is a static level - do we at least agree there?
>>
>> Ian - Yes, but like all levels it comprises patterns that are evolving
>> thanks to the action of DQ.
>
>
> Ian,
>
> Will the Social Level expand and evolve into something different than
> the social level?
>
> None demonstrate anything like an expanded intellectual pattern.   Do
> you think that to say you understand the MoQ, makes it so?  There has been
> no demonstration of anything but ordinary subject/object thinking, with some
> social/biological epitaphs thrown in for biological/social reasons.
>
>
> Marsha
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