[MD] Social Intellectual

[MarshaV]

On Jul 22, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:   

Cut out the FUCKING PERSONAL INSULTS Bo,
and argue with what people actually say,
or just SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I'm off to the hills .... sort the DICKHEAD out Horse.
Ian


 
 
 
 
 
 



On Jul 28, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:

> Hi Marsha (and Bo), I see DMB already replied, but you addressed a
> question to me (I think) ...
> 
> The social level (like all levels, as I said) will keep evolving - of
> course it's the patterns within it that do the evolving - they are the
> species. It (its contents) will evolve into something different to the
> current / pre-existing social level. As has happened already it can
> and will evolve patterns that are part of the intellectual level - the
> first such patterns that did so, evolved the intellectual level
> itself. (as DMB said too)
> 
> Next, I get confused .... are you still talking to me ?
> None have demonstrated ... etc.
> Do you think that if ... you understand .... etc.
> There have been ... etc.
> 
> I think you are making pejorative statements about people's behaviours
> in general. As I've said before if you have such a complaint about me
> I'd prefer it if you were specific with examples.
> 
> My view - in MoQ-Discuss emails it is difficult to work with anything
> but S's and O's - it's the nature of language - but plenty use
> artistic rhetoric and poetics and links to parallel interests that
> break the dialectic patterns. I wouldn't generalise the negative
> criticism (if that's what it was).
> 
> I think there is plenty of non-S-O / Quality thinking being
> demonstrated, but clearly you have to read between the S-O lines of
> the language to see the quality .... as we all did at least once with
> Pirsig.
> 
> Since Bo was the subject at hand .... Bo is in fact the least able to
> argue his way out of his SOMist prison in my experience .... resorting
> to insults when he doesn't understand an argument and never returning
> to points made to him that might help us all out of that
> straight-jacket.
> 
> Regards
> Ian
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:47 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Bo > Intellect is a static level - do we at least agree there?
>>> 
>>> Ian - Yes, but like all levels it comprises patterns that are evolving
>>> thanks to the action of DQ.
>> 
>> 
>> Ian,
>> 
>> Will the Social Level expand and evolve into something different than
>> the social level?
>> 
>> None demonstrate anything like an expanded intellectual pattern.   Do
>> you think that to say you understand the MoQ, makes it so?  There has been
>> no demonstration of anything but ordinary subject/object thinking, with some
>> social/biological epitaphs thrown in for biological/social reasons.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 

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