[MD] Bo's weak versus strong interpretation of quantum physiks
Magnus Berg
McMagnus at home.se
Wed Jul 28 14:28:59 PDT 2010
Krimel
> [Magnus]
> Just had to chime in here. The MoQ's stance here is actually:
>
> I think (I (subject), experience the ideas (object) in my brain)
> therefore I exist in the same stack in which my physical brain resides.
> Because ideas are intellectual patterns and all patterns are dependent
> on lower level patterns.
>
> [Krimel]
> I don't think the cogito moves us anywhere near a subject or objects. I just
> used "subject" because the statement contains some "I"s. All it says is that
> I know that I exist in virtue of my thoughts. I cannot seriously doubt that
> I am having thoughts but that says buttkiss about what thoughts are, where
> they come from, what my relationship to them is or anything whatever about
> the "I" that is having them. Most of the "problems" associated with
> Descartes come from his own elaborations of the cogito and from the
> elaborations of his commentators.
Sometimes, I'm not really sure what you see in the MoQ, because you
never use it the way I think it was intended.
To me, that's a very good example that shows how powerful the MoQ levels
are, and how they agree with common sense. The common sense that says
that we all live in this physical world and my thoughts are residents of
my brain and can control my physical body.
Magnus
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