[MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality

gav gav_gc at yahoo.com.au
Mon Mar 8 19:17:08 PST 2010


so where does censorship fit into the scheme of things? i thought it would have been a social pattern no? so by eliminating the g.o.d. word (god i hope he didn't hear me - i might get oppressed) everything is better eh? i say 'why stop there!?"....let's ban 'pain' and 'disgruntled' and 'disaffected' and 'unhappy' .... hey!!!!!! i think i am onto something

i hate to break it to you guys folks but i fear our heads have become wedged well and truly up our asses



bye





--- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> From: gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:01 PM
> 
> should we drop 'truth', 'the market', 'freedom', 'america'
> as well then
> 
> it's a fucking word
> 
> meaning is contextual 
> 
> jesus i am so over this shit
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 9/3/10, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 1:25 PM
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > Definition, connotation and history are intricately
> > involved with patterning, and since the definition,
> > connotation and history of the God-pattern is
> associated
> > with  "an evil social suppression of intellectual
> and
> > Dynamic freedom" it should be dropped.  Quality as
> > presented in the Moq is a much better (untainted)
> > label.  
> > 
> > 
> > Marsha
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:05 PM, gav wrote:
> > 
> > > hiya,
> > > 
> > > "In the third stage, that of 'absolute religion',
> the
> > selfconscious subject and its object, Nature, are seen
> as
> > distinct yet essentially related, and at the same time
> as
> > grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is conceived
> 'as the
> > Being who is at once the source, the sustaining power,
> and
> > the end of our spiritual lives'. This does not mean,
> > however, that the idea of God is completely
> indeterminate,
> > so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism of
> Herbert
> > Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject and
> > object, and the more we understand the spiritual life
> of
> > humanity on the one hand and the world of Nature on
> the
> > other, so much the more do we learn about God who is
> 'the
> > ultimate unity of our life and of the life of the
> > world'      <<<<<The MOQ would
> > add a fourth stage where the term “God” is
> completely
> > dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression of
> > intellectual and Dynamic freedom.   The MOQ
> > is not just atheistic in this regard.  It is
> > > anti-theistic. >>>>>"" 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > gav: so the term 'god' is dropped but the
> concept
> > remains? ie there is an ultimate unity of our life and
> the
> > world but we don't call it god we call it quality or
> dynamic
> > quality or tao or becoming or nagual or some other
> word?
> > > 
> > > i am confused - seems like a cop out to
> me...what
> > difference what we call it? maybe that's why the
> indians
> > have hundreds of names for it....
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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