[MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Mar 8 19:43:07 PST 2010



Drop them if they are proving to be of low-value, and it's not just about
what you're over.



On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:01 PM, gav wrote:

> 
> should we drop 'truth', 'the market', 'freedom', 'america' as well then
> 
> it's a fucking word
> 
> meaning is contextual 
> 
> jesus i am so over this shit
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 9/3/10, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 1:25 PM
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Definition, connotation and history are intricately
>> involved with patterning, and since the definition,
>> connotation and history of the God-pattern is associated
>> with  "an evil social suppression of intellectual and
>> Dynamic freedom" it should be dropped.  Quality as
>> presented in the Moq is a much better (untainted)
>> label.  
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:05 PM, gav wrote:
>> 
>>> hiya,
>>> 
>>> "In the third stage, that of 'absolute religion', the
>> selfconscious subject and its object, Nature, are seen as
>> distinct yet essentially related, and at the same time as
>> grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is conceived 'as the
>> Being who is at once the source, the sustaining power, and
>> the end of our spiritual lives'. This does not mean,
>> however, that the idea of God is completely indeterminate,
>> so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism of Herbert
>> Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject and
>> object, and the more we understand the spiritual life of
>> humanity on the one hand and the world of Nature on the
>> other, so much the more do we learn about God who is 'the
>> ultimate unity of our life and of the life of the
>> world'      <<<<<The MOQ would
>> add a fourth stage where the term “God” is completely
>> dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression of
>> intellectual and Dynamic freedom.   The MOQ
>> is not just atheistic in this regard.  It is
>>> anti-theistic. >>>>>"" 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> gav: so the term 'god' is dropped but the concept
>> remains? ie there is an ultimate unity of our life and the
>> world but we don't call it god we call it quality or dynamic
>> quality or tao or becoming or nagual or some other word?
>>> 
>>> i am confused - seems like a cop out to me...what
>> difference what we call it? maybe that's why the indians
>> have hundreds of names for it....
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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