[MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality

[MarshaV]

Gav,

If the me and the you are removed, it becomes let the better patterns
succeed and grow stronger.  


Marsha



On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:56 PM, gav wrote:

> apologies marsha for my petulance - just pissed off wasting time quibbling over definitions and other pedantry...
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> From: gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:17 PM
>> so where does censorship fit into the
>> scheme of things? i thought it would have been a social
>> pattern no? so by eliminating the g.o.d. word (god i hope he
>> didn't hear me - i might get oppressed) everything is better
>> eh? i say 'why stop there!?"....let's ban 'pain' and
>> 'disgruntled' and 'disaffected' and 'unhappy' .... hey!!!!!!
>> i think i am onto something
>> 
>> i hate to break it to you guys folks but i fear our heads
>> have become wedged well and truly up our asses
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> bye
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> From: gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
>>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality
>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>> Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:01 PM
>>> 
>>> should we drop 'truth', 'the market', 'freedom',
>> 'america'
>>> as well then
>>> 
>>> it's a fucking word
>>> 
>>> meaning is contextual 
>>> 
>>> jesus i am so over this shit
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- On Tue, 9/3/10, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual
>> Quality
>>>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>>>> Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 1:25 PM
>>>> Greetings,
>>>> 
>>>> Definition, connotation and history are
>> intricately
>>>> involved with patterning, and since the
>> definition,
>>>> connotation and history of the God-pattern is
>>> associated
>>>> with  "an evil social suppression of
>> intellectual
>>> and
>>>> Dynamic freedom" it should be dropped.  Quality
>> as
>>>> presented in the Moq is a much better
>> (untainted)
>>>> label.  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:05 PM, gav wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hiya,
>>>>> 
>>>>> "In the third stage, that of 'absolute
>> religion',
>>> the
>>>> selfconscious subject and its object, Nature, are
>> seen
>>> as
>>>> distinct yet essentially related, and at the same
>> time
>>> as
>>>> grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is
>> conceived
>>> 'as the
>>>> Being who is at once the source, the sustaining
>> power,
>>> and
>>>> the end of our spiritual lives'. This does not
>> mean,
>>>> however, that the idea of God is completely
>>> indeterminate,
>>>> so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism
>> of
>>> Herbert
>>>> Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject
>> and
>>>> object, and the more we understand the spiritual
>> life
>>> of
>>>> humanity on the one hand and the world of Nature
>> on
>>> the
>>>> other, so much the more do we learn about God who
>> is
>>> 'the
>>>> ultimate unity of our life and of the life of
>> the
>>>> world'      <<<<<The MOQ would
>>>> add a fourth stage where the term “God” is
>>> completely
>>>> dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression
>> of
>>>> intellectual and Dynamic freedom.   The MOQ
>>>> is not just atheistic in this regard.  It is
>>>>> anti-theistic. >>>>>"" 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> gav: so the term 'god' is dropped but the
>>> concept
>>>> remains? ie there is an ultimate unity of our
>> life and
>>> the
>>>> world but we don't call it god we call it quality
>> or
>>> dynamic
>>>> quality or tao or becoming or nagual or some
>> other
>>> word?
>>>>> 
>>>>> i am confused - seems like a cop out to
>>> me...what
>>>> difference what we call it? maybe that's why the
>>> indians
>>>> have hundreds of names for it....
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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