[MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality

[John Carl]

Hey, don't apologize gav,  It was eloquent phrasing, philosophically valid
AND I laughed my ass off.

A three-fer!  Woo hoo!

I'm tellin' ya.  What we need around here is a good solid revival of Flying
Spaghetti Monsterism.


John the preacher





On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:56 PM, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> apologies marsha for my petulance - just pissed off wasting time quibbling
> over definitions and other pedantry...
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > From: gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:17 PM
> > so where does censorship fit into the
> > scheme of things? i thought it would have been a social
> > pattern no? so by eliminating the g.o.d. word (god i hope he
> > didn't hear me - i might get oppressed) everything is better
> > eh? i say 'why stop there!?"....let's ban 'pain' and
> > 'disgruntled' and 'disaffected' and 'unhappy' .... hey!!!!!!
> > i think i am onto something
> >
> > i hate to break it to you guys folks but i fear our heads
> > have become wedged well and truly up our asses
> >
> >
> >
> > bye
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 9/3/10, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality
> > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 2:01 PM
> > >
> > > should we drop 'truth', 'the market', 'freedom',
> > 'america'
> > > as well then
> > >
> > > it's a fucking word
> > >
> > > meaning is contextual
> > >
> > > jesus i am so over this shit
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 9/3/10, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: MarshaV <valkyr at att.net>
> > > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual
> > Quality
> > > > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > > > Received: Tuesday, 9 March, 2010, 1:25 PM
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > Definition, connotation and history are
> > intricately
> > > > involved with patterning, and since the
> > definition,
> > > > connotation and history of the God-pattern is
> > > associated
> > > > with  "an evil social suppression of
> > intellectual
> > > and
> > > > Dynamic freedom" it should be dropped.  Quality
> > as
> > > > presented in the Moq is a much better
> > (untainted)
> > > > label.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Marsha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 8, 2010, at 5:05 PM, gav wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hiya,
> > > > >
> > > > > "In the third stage, that of 'absolute
> > religion',
> > > the
> > > > selfconscious subject and its object, Nature, are
> > seen
> > > as
> > > > distinct yet essentially related, and at the same
> > time
> > > as
> > > > grounded in an ultimate unity. And God is
> > conceived
> > > 'as the
> > > > Being who is at once the source, the sustaining
> > power,
> > > and
> > > > the end of our spiritual lives'. This does not
> > mean,
> > > > however, that the idea of God is completely
> > > indeterminate,
> > > > so that we are forced to embrace the agnosticism
> > of
> > > Herbert
> > > > Spencer For God manifests Himself in both subject
> > and
> > > > object, and the more we understand the spiritual
> > life
> > > of
> > > > humanity on the one hand and the world of Nature
> > on
> > > the
> > > > other, so much the more do we learn about God who
> > is
> > > 'the
> > > > ultimate unity of our life and of the life of
> > the
> > > > world'      <<<<<The MOQ would
> > > > add a fourth stage where the term “God” is
> > > completely
> > > > dropped as a relic of an evil social suppression
> > of
> > > > intellectual and Dynamic freedom.   The MOQ
> > > > is not just atheistic in this regard.  It is
> > > > > anti-theistic. >>>>>""
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > gav: so the term 'god' is dropped but the
> > > concept
> > > > remains? ie there is an ultimate unity of our
> > life and
> > > the
> > > > world but we don't call it god we call it quality
> > or
> > > dynamic
> > > > quality or tao or becoming or nagual or some
> > other
> > > word?
> > > > >
> > > > > i am confused - seems like a cop out to
> > > me...what
> > > > difference what we call it? maybe that's why the
> > > indians
> > > > have hundreds of names for it....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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