[MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality

[gav]

u condescending bastard dan
love ya

--- On Thu, 11/3/10, Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dan Glover <daneglover at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MD] The Level of Intellectual Quality
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Received: Thursday, 11 March, 2010, 1:27 PM
> Hello everyone
> 
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Louise Pryor <bypryordesign at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The only person I can change is myself... BUT, *I*
> cannot change me all by
> > myself.
> >
> > The only way I can change, grow, become better, is by
> listening to the input
> > of others, people I like and respect, sure, but also
> those I don't care for
> > might also have something useful to add. I can hear it
> all, and hold on to
> > that which is good, useful, profitable, and discard
> that which is not.
> 
> Dan:
> The thing about becoming better is there is no way to do it
> other than
> doing it. I don't need to hear anything from anyone. I just
> know. And
> so do you whether you care to admit it or not.
> 
> 
> >Lu:
> > It seems that on a metaphysical discussion group, you
> would find the
> > majority with this view - openness to discourse. It is
> threatening to most
> > folks out in the world, to have their ideology and
> worldview challenged.
> > Here, though, it should be a safe place to bring it
> ALL up. A LOT of people
> > believe in a god of some sort. To just chuck out any
> conversation including
> > allusions to deity or theism is to exclude a lot of
> interesting discussion.
> 
> Dan:
> 
> What a load of crap. A lot of people watch television too.
> What does
> that tell you about a lot of people? And I'm supposed to
> listen to
> them? Why? And I'm sorry to say it but I find most people
> dull and
> decidedly uninteresting, that's one reason I hang out
> here.
> 
> >Lu:
> > Just the words "god, deity, theism" seems to cause
> instant panicked
> > reactions, a whole lifetime of prejudice is married to
> those words. But I
> > assure you that the attachments I have to them differs
> from yours as much as
> > I differ from you, but what I also know, that most
> "atheists" or
> > "anti-theists" don't seem to (or it isn't apparent
> from what I have observed
> > here, anyway), is that if we actually took the time
> and effort to ask the
> > pertinent questions, and to really listen to each
> other, we would find
> > ourselves closer than we might think, and we would all
> go away from the
> > conversation richer.
> 
> Dan:
> 
> My oldest daughter got married about four years ago. Her
> and her new
> husband lived in Utah at the time. They invited me to the
> wedding. I
> dislike flying so I drove for two days to get there. Now...
> imagine if
> you will being told you can't attend your daughter's
> wedding because
> you're not a Mormon. Non-believers are not allowed inside
> their
> temple.
> 
> So. Lucky me got to attend the civil ceremony the next day
> at the
> local community center. And my in-laws treated me like I
> was some kind
> of low-life. They kept calling each other "brother" and
> "sister" while
> all the time ignoring me. Christ. They wouldn't even look
> me in the
> eye. I did a prayer for all of them in that afternoon's
> meditation.
> 
> Theism leaves a bad taste in my mouth. People start
> believing they
> know best and whoever disagrees, they first try to convert
> them. That
> failing, they shun the non-believers. Name me one theistic
> religion
> that doesn't, please. They're all the same in that regard.
> Atheists
> are nearly as bad. Don't even get me started with that.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Lu - the wife of a discouraged man. *sigh*
> 
> Dan:
> 
> Well, from the look of things your man has gotten over his
> discouragement, what with dmb playing nice and all. I'm
> glad. And
> don't worry. I won't be able to post here again any time
> soon.
> Priorities, don't you know.
> 
> Be Good,
> 
> Dan
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