[MD] Royce's Absolute

[John Carl]

Well that's real nice, dave, but that wasn't your assignment. Watch out or
you're gonna flunk this course.   I've got more sources on Royce's Absolute
than the SEP has with it's sips.  You were supposed to be finding me some
Pirsig's thought.  Specifically, why an "absolute" is incompatible with the
MoQ.

That's the point were arguing at the moment.  I can't address it unless I
know what it is.

Unless, Andre's was the sum total of the disparagment.

Doesn't like the "connotations".

Is that gonna be the thrust of your side of the argument?  Because if that's
all there is, then I'm gonna hang my head in shame at what our great
institutions of learning are producing these days, if that is seen as
"logical argumentation".

Connotations.

It's as bad as saying, I don't like the way it sounds because I had a dream
once where I was chased down and buggered by Australian Native Peoples with
their instruments and I can't bear the juxtaposition of "Abs" and "lute".

So c'mon dave.  Give me something to work with here.  Don't tell me about
Royce, I've been chewing on him for some time.

I'll be gone for the weekend, so no rush.

John

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:46 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> The SEP article on Royce opens like this...
>
> Josiah Royce (1855-1916) was the leading American proponent of absolute
> idealism, the metaphysical view (also maintained by G. W. F. Hegel and F. H.
> Bradley) that all aspects of reality, including those we experience as
> disconnected or contradictory, are ultimately unified in the thought of a
> single all-encompassing consciousness. ...Royce's friendly but longstanding
> dispute with William James, known as "The Battle of the Absolute," deeply
> influenced both philosophers' thought. In his later works, Royce reconceived
> his metaphysics as an "absolute pragmatism" grounded in semiotics. This view
> dispenses with the Absolute Mind of previous idealism and instead
> characterizes reality as a universe of ideas or signs which occur in a
> process of being interpreted by an infinite community of minds. These minds,
> and the community they constitute, may themselves be understood as signs.
> Royce's ethics, philosophy of community, philosophy of religion, and logic
> reflect this metaphysical pos
>  ition.
>
> Let pick out the what seems like the main thing. Royce was the leading
> proponent of the view that all aspects of reality are ultimately unified in
> the thought of a single all-embracing consciousness. That all-embracing
> consciousness is the same "Absolute" that Hegel and Bradley maintained. In
> his later works, Royce's Absolute Mind is replaced by an infinite community
> of minds. His pragmatic absolutism is grounded in semiotics and
> characterizes reality as signs and ideas. The community of minds that
> interpret this universe of signs and ideas are themselves signs and ideas.
>
> How's that? Something to chew on, eh?
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