[MD] Royce's Absolute

[Ian Glendinning]

:-)

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:20 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well that's real nice, dave, but that wasn't your assignment. Watch out or
> you're gonna flunk this course.   I've got more sources on Royce's Absolute
> than the SEP has with it's sips.  You were supposed to be finding me some
> Pirsig's thought.  Specifically, why an "absolute" is incompatible with the
> MoQ.
>
> That's the point were arguing at the moment.  I can't address it unless I
> know what it is.
>
> Unless, Andre's was the sum total of the disparagment.
>
> Doesn't like the "connotations".
>
> Is that gonna be the thrust of your side of the argument?  Because if that's
> all there is, then I'm gonna hang my head in shame at what our great
> institutions of learning are producing these days, if that is seen as
> "logical argumentation".
>
> Connotations.
>
> It's as bad as saying, I don't like the way it sounds because I had a dream
> once where I was chased down and buggered by Australian Native Peoples with
> their instruments and I can't bear the juxtaposition of "Abs" and "lute".
>
> So c'mon dave.  Give me something to work with here.  Don't tell me about
> Royce, I've been chewing on him for some time.
>
> I'll be gone for the weekend, so no rush.
>
> John
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 3:46 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> The SEP article on Royce opens like this...
>>
>> Josiah Royce (1855-1916) was the leading American proponent of absolute
>> idealism, the metaphysical view (also maintained by G. W. F. Hegel and F. H.
>> Bradley) that all aspects of reality, including those we experience as
>> disconnected or contradictory, are ultimately unified in the thought of a
>> single all-encompassing consciousness. ...Royce's friendly but longstanding
>> dispute with William James, known as "The Battle of the Absolute," deeply
>> influenced both philosophers' thought. In his later works, Royce reconceived
>> his metaphysics as an "absolute pragmatism" grounded in semiotics. This view
>> dispenses with the Absolute Mind of previous idealism and instead
>> characterizes reality as a universe of ideas or signs which occur in a
>> process of being interpreted by an infinite community of minds. These minds,
>> and the community they constitute, may themselves be understood as signs.
>> Royce's ethics, philosophy of community, philosophy of religion, and logic
>> reflect this metaphysical pos
>>  ition.
>>
>> Let pick out the what seems like the main thing. Royce was the leading
>> proponent of the view that all aspects of reality are ultimately unified in
>> the thought of a single all-embracing consciousness. That all-embracing
>> consciousness is the same "Absolute" that Hegel and Bradley maintained. In
>> his later works, Royce's Absolute Mind is replaced by an infinite community
>> of minds. His pragmatic absolutism is grounded in semiotics and
>> characterizes reality as signs and ideas. The community of minds that
>> interpret this universe of signs and ideas are themselves signs and ideas.
>>
>> How's that? Something to chew on, eh?
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