[MD] DMB and Me

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi Craig 

How was the Strawson lecture? You did not not receive much "ammo" 
to bring along from the alleged moqists around this place. 

> If an infant bonks its head with a baby rattle, does the
> direct/immediate experience begin: 

"Immediate experience" is the most abused tenet of the MOQ. As 
used in ZAMM it was the (dynamic) pre-intellectual phase that 
preceded the (static) intellectual ditto, the latter being the subject 
confronted by objects. 

NB! In ZAMM "intellect" was the only static level) 

But a self-appointed scholar of this discussion has made "immediate 
experience" what precedes LANGUAGE, even what precedes the 
doctrine that says that there is an immediate (dynamic) experience 
preceding static experience. Trump that!!!            

> 1) when the rattle meets the head 2) when the nerve ending sends a
> signal 3) when the signal reaches the brain 4) when the brain first
> processes the signal. Are there kinds of direct/immediate experience?
> If so, is the infant's of the same kind as the adult's? Craig 

All this is the intellectual level's "knowledge", for instance that qualities 
only exist subjectively  "for us" (their being mere matterish electro-
chemical signals until  reaching the brain where a "mind translates 
them into "experienced pain)

MOQ's point is that the levels before (below) intellect knew no such 
S/O distinction and - moreover - that the  S/O distinction is the static 
intellectual level of its own DQ/SQ (+static level) arrangement. 

Get it?

Bodvar