[MD] DMB and Me

[David Thomas]

Bo 
 
[Bo] 
> "Immediate experience" is the most abused tenet of the MOQ. As
> used in ZAMM it was the (dynamic) pre-intellectual phase that
> preceded the (static) intellectual ditto, the latter being the subject
> confronted by objects.
> 
> NB! In ZAMM "intellect" was the only static level)
> 
[Pirsig as edited by DMB-ZAMM, pp. 282-83]
"In my mind now is an image of a huge, long railroad train, one of those
120-boxcar jobsŠ In terms of the analogy, Classic Knowledge, the knowledge
taught by the Church of Reason, is the engine and all the boxcars. ŠRomantic
Quality, in terms of this analogy, isn't any ``part'' of the train. It's the
leading edge of the engine, a two-dimensional surface of no real
significance unless you understand that the train isn't a static entity at
all. ŠThe real train of knowledge isn't a static entity that can be stopped
and subdivided. It's always going somewhere. On a track called Quality.
ŠRomantic reality is the cutting edge of experience. It's the leading edge
of the train of knowledge that keeps the whole train on the track.
Traditional knowledge is only the collective memory of where that leading
edge has been. At the leading edge there are no subjects, no objects, only
the track of Quality ahead, and if you have no formal way of evaluating, no
way of acknowledging this Quality, then the entire train has no way of
knowing where to go. You don't have pure reason...you have pure confusion.
The leading edge is where absolutely all the action is. The leading edge
contains all the infinite possibilities of the future. It contains all the
history of the pastŠ The cutting edge of this instant right here and now is
always nothing less than the totality of everything there is."

[Dave]
Bo read this train analogy again. If "the cutting edge of this instant" in
ZaMM is what is called  "immediate experience" in Lila then your claim that:
-" it [is] the (dynamic) pre-intellectual phase that preceded the (static)
intellectual [phase], the latter being the subject confronted by objects."
is a mistaken interpretation.

Because RMP here in ZaMM says quite clearly, " The cutting edge of this
instant right here and now is always nothing less than the totality of
everything there is."  So "immediate experience" right here and now at some
instant in time contains both the dynamic and static, subjects and objects,
black and white, you and me, EVERYQUALITY, EVERYNOW. Intellectual knowledge
is the history, the memories, of our combined cutting edge events.

Dave