[MD] The Courtship and Marriage of Sophie and Phil

[Ian Glendinning]

Hi John,

Philosophy as the Wisdom of Love is a view I also subscribe to - but
tell me do you have a source for that form of words as an accepted
greek lingusitc translation, or did the word-play on the accepted
philosophical translation just occur to you ? Like, I'm sure you never
actually believed Wisdom was about intellectual smartness at any
point.

I think this is such an important point.
I can't count how many times I've quoted Elvis ... what's so funny 'bout ...
Regards
Ian

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:
> Royce lays out an argument for the basis of ethics in "the striving to be
> both humane and reasonable at once".  This struck me as fresh, somehow. I've
> always been beguiled by an English interpretation of Philo-Sophia, as the
> "Love of Wisdom."  This interpretation made sense to me as the striving for
> wisdom, the getting of smartness, making intellectual attainment the goal.
> What you value (love) is what is most important - thus wisdom is the point
> of philosophy.
>
>
> But really, is lonely wisdom all that great?  Isn't that the cold ghost of
> reason that Phaedrus pursued (in himself) and thrashed (with some help) and
> we all recognize.
>
> What then has been missing from my normal understanding of Love of Wisdom,
> my PhiloSophy?
>
> I've missed out on the the marriage of the two.  Both together creating a
> new entity that transcends both.   The marriage of wisdom and Love produce
> the Good - a healthy little family triad.
>
> So... what does that mean to me in experience?  Well for the future, I'll
> have to wait and see.  For the present... all it means is I'm writing words
> to the world from a certain ethical impetus to make sense and to make love
> simultaneously.
>
> Maybe this is what y'all meant by equating Quality with Love as being too
> "Hallmarky"  I think it was dmb, who pointed me that one, so yeah, I get it
> now what is meant.  Love without wisdom is mushy, with no real structure or
> "spine", in the same way wisdom without love is too stern and pointed and
> angular.  You gotta have both for a realization of the good.
>
> When I apply this wisdom to my past experience, I see a pattern of
> disturbances where the harmonic unity was not maintained.  Was I lacking
> wisdom?  Or was it love that was lacking?   A combination of both, I
> suppose.  If I'd only cared more, I would have known better.  If I'd known
> better, I would have cared more.
>
> I've gone through so many friendships in my life,  friendships that I didn't
> want to lose, friendships that broke apart for reasons I continually
> explore.  Seeking where the choices lay, working out what it means and why.
> Intellectual understanding of why love goes.
>
> An impossible task.
>
> But since when has that ever stopped us?
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