[MD] trinity explanations

[MarshaV]

Hi John,

I've been feeling extremely uncomfortable about having used the expression
'religious experience.'  I think I will revise the expression to 'very extreme 
psychological experience.'  

There, that feels better.


Marsha
  



On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:44 AM, MarshaV wrote:

> 
> Hi John,
> 
> I'm not working attached to a particular tradition so I don't have a set pattern 
> of words to reference.  To explain an unpatterned experience seems impossible, 
> too simple for words.   I love words, though, and this morning I woke up with a 
> book title, more a variation, on my mind:  the incredible lightness of being.  I 
> suppose it reflects a 'religious' experience I once had.  I thought it was just 
> marijuana given to me by a friend of my husband's, but it was much, much 
> more.  I can appreciate a trinity, but in the end it falls away as not this, not
> that.   
> 
> 
> Marsha  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 23, 2010, at 5:00 PM, John Carl wrote:
> 
>> See, the problem to my thinking is that in direct and immediate awareness of
>> the moment, there are those three entities as experiential fundaments of my
>> being.
>> 
>> Value sensibility or awareness
>> 
>> Other
>> 
>> Valuation or Quality
>> 
>> 
>> ANYthing else that is posited as "preconceptual" or whatever intellectual
>> constructs designed to persuade of non-intellectual construction, are
>> differing dreams and ideas of men, with differing utility to differing
>> individuals.  They can only be taken as important as their relative
>> construction of meanings construe.  And positing one particular idea, the
>> idea of "preconceptual" as absolute seems to my thinking the least
>> ultilitarian and helpful construction as I can imagine.  It's basically a
>> moronist view of meaning arising from randomness rather than a playful
>> interaction of different players, "I", "Other" and "Valuation"
>> 
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