[MD] trinity explanations

[John Carl]

Marsha,

I agree with your discomfort with "religious".  Too many connotations of
social conformity and mass hysteria.

But "psychological experience",  even extreme, is too clinical, objective
and falls short, I think.  We could go with "spiritual" but that just so
nebulous and over-used and trite ...  Hmmm... How about transcendant?

Yeah.  I like that.  "A transcendant experience" I once had.  Meaning one
where I was lifted out of my usual context.

How does that feel?

John the word helper

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 6:51 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I've been feeling extremely uncomfortable about having used the expression
> 'religious experience.'  I think I will revise the expression to 'very
> extreme
> psychological experience.'
>
> There, that feels better.
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:44 AM, MarshaV wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > I'm not working attached to a particular tradition so I don't have a set
> pattern
> > of words to reference.  To explain an unpatterned experience seems
> impossible,
> > too simple for words.   I love words, though, and this morning I woke up
> with a
> > book title, more a variation, on my mind:  the incredible lightness of
> being.  I
> > suppose it reflects a 'religious' experience I once had.  I thought it
> was just
> > marijuana given to me by a friend of my husband's, but it was much, much
> > more.  I can appreciate a trinity, but in the end it falls away as not
> this, not
> > that.
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 23, 2010, at 5:00 PM, John Carl wrote:
> >
> >> See, the problem to my thinking is that in direct and immediate
> awareness of
> >> the moment, there are those three entities as experiential fundaments of
> my
> >> being.
> >>
> >> Value sensibility or awareness
> >>
> >> Other
> >>
> >> Valuation or Quality
> >>
> >>
> >> ANYthing else that is posited as "preconceptual" or whatever
> intellectual
> >> constructs designed to persuade of non-intellectual construction, are
> >> differing dreams and ideas of men, with differing utility to differing
> >> individuals.  They can only be taken as important as their relative
> >> construction of meanings construe.  And positing one particular idea,
> the
> >> idea of "preconceptual" as absolute seems to my thinking the least
> >> ultilitarian and helpful construction as I can imagine.  It's basically
> a
> >> moronist view of meaning arising from randomness rather than a playful
> >> interaction of different players, "I", "Other" and "Valuation"
> >>
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