[MD] Trance Zen Dance

[MarshaV]

On Mar 26, 2010, at 8:17 PM, John Carl wrote:

> "Among the many forms in which human spirit has tried to express its
> innermost yearnings and perceptions, music is perhaps the most universal. It
> symbolizes the yearning for harmony, with oneself and others, with nature
> and the spiritual and the sacred within us and around us. There is something
> in music that transcends and unites. This is evident in the sacred music of
> every community-music that expresses the universal yearning that is shared
> by people all over the globe."
> 
> -His Holiness the XIV Dalai Lama
> 
> 
> “I say we fill our guns full of love and we shoot for a new
> dream<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXg6Cm_T9fk>
> ”
> 
> 
> Trance Zen Dance is as cool name for a band, imo.  They're a local
> group<http://www.trancezendance.org/home.html>that have been around a
> while so I've heard their names on the radio more
> than a few times, listened to a CD of their music once, from a friend.
> 
> We went on a quick trip to Reno, again, while my eldest daughter Em is home
> for Spring Break.
> 
> So what I've been thinking about, between hotels, shopping and eating, is my
> last post to Marsha, and why religious, spiritual or psychological are all
> inadequate terms for transcendent experience.  Even though transcendent
> experience is in a sense, psychological, spiritual and religious.
> 
> But really, what it is most of all is experience which takes us out of our
> static conceptions of self.  Transcending our selves.
> 
> The problem with labeling this experience "spiritual, religious or
> psychological" is that those are definitions of what lies beyond our static
> conceptions of self.  If we fully realize and conceptualize the transcendant
> experience with these terms, then we block transcendance.  For then, our
> "outside" has become part of our conceptual arrangemand we can no longer go
> there in seeking escape from ourselves.
> 
> We can't grasp transcendance.
> 
> And I think Marsha knows this well, with her embrace of "nothingness".  But
> even nothing becomes something when it's abstracted and aimed at.  So that
> doesn't make me all that happy either.  For instance, my nothing is
> completely different from your nothing, since my nothing is dropping MY
> patterns and your nothing is dropping yours.

Hi John,

The nature of reality seems to be beyond "MY patterns" and your patterns, 
it transcends subject and objects.  Like Ham's "individual," where is this MY?  
Is it Cause?  Is it Effect?  Is Whole, independent, without parts?  Does IT have
boundaries?  No!  It has only false boundaries.  Flowing, flowing, flowing...        

MY is a pattern.    


Marsha





> 
> And then there's the thing that Ron points to with his Emerson quote:
> 
> Fresh truth, like the thoughts of genius,
> 
> comes always as a surprise, as what Emerson
> calls “the newness” (CW3: 40). He therefore
> looks for a “certain brief experience, which
> surprise[s] me in the highway or in the market,
> in some place, at some time…” (Z: 253). This
> is an experience that cannot be repeated by
> simply returning to a place or to an object
> such as a painting.
> 
> A great disappointment of life, Emerson finds, is that one can only
> “see” certain pictures once, and that the stories and people who fill a day
> or an hour with pleasure and insight are not able to repeat the performance.
> 
> -----
> 
> I'm almost tempted to say, "duh", Ron and Emerson,  but that'd be repeating
> a performance.
> 
> 
> Our language,
> Our language of creation,
> Language of liberation,
> We speak into that space
> That we call the now
> As we allow
> To let truth
> Teach us how.
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