[MD] Trance Zen Dance

[MarshaV]

And John, I prefer to use no-thingness, or better yet: emptiness, rather than
nothingness.  Self and objects are empty of an autonomous existence.  



On Mar 26, 2010, at 8:17 PM, John Carl wrote:

> "Among the many forms in which human spirit has tried to express its
> innermost yearnings and perceptions, music is perhaps the most universal. It
> symbolizes the yearning for harmony, with oneself and others, with nature
> and the spiritual and the sacred within us and around us. There is something
> in music that transcends and unites. This is evident in the sacred music of
> every community-music that expresses the universal yearning that is shared
> by people all over the globe."
> 
> -His Holiness the XIV Dalai Lama
> 
> 
> “I say we fill our guns full of love and we shoot for a new
> dream<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXg6Cm_T9fk>
> ”
> 
> 
> Trance Zen Dance is as cool name for a band, imo.  They're a local
> group<http://www.trancezendance.org/home.html>that have been around a
> while so I've heard their names on the radio more
> than a few times, listened to a CD of their music once, from a friend.
> 
> We went on a quick trip to Reno, again, while my eldest daughter Em is home
> for Spring Break.
> 
> So what I've been thinking about, between hotels, shopping and eating, is my
> last post to Marsha, and why religious, spiritual or psychological are all
> inadequate terms for transcendent experience.  Even though transcendent
> experience is in a sense, psychological, spiritual and religious.
> 
> But really, what it is most of all is experience which takes us out of our
> static conceptions of self.  Transcending our selves.
> 
> The problem with labeling this experience "spiritual, religious or
> psychological" is that those are definitions of what lies beyond our static
> conceptions of self.  If we fully realize and conceptualize the transcendant
> experience with these terms, then we block transcendance.  For then, our
> "outside" has become part of our conceptual arrangemand we can no longer go
> there in seeking escape from ourselves.
> 
> We can't grasp transcendance.
> 
> And I think Marsha knows this well, with her embrace of "nothingness".  But
> even nothing becomes something when it's abstracted and aimed at.  So that
> doesn't make me all that happy either.  For instance, my nothing is
> completely different from your nothing, since my nothing is dropping MY
> patterns and your nothing is dropping yours.
> 
> And then there's the thing that Ron points to with his Emerson quote:
> 
> Fresh truth, like the thoughts of genius,
> 
> comes always as a surprise, as what Emerson
> calls “the newness” (CW3: 40). He therefore
> looks for a “certain brief experience, which
> surprise[s] me in the highway or in the market,
> in some place, at some time…” (Z: 253). This
> is an experience that cannot be repeated by
> simply returning to a place or to an object
> such as a painting.
> 
> A great disappointment of life, Emerson finds, is that one can only
> “see” certain pictures once, and that the stories and people who fill a day
> or an hour with pleasure and insight are not able to repeat the performance.
> 
> -----
> 
> I'm almost tempted to say, "duh", Ron and Emerson,  but that'd be repeating
> a performance.
> 
> 
> Our language,
> Our language of creation,
> Language of liberation,
> We speak into that space
> That we call the now
> As we allow
> To let truth
> Teach us how.
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