[MD] Spinning our Wheels, metaphorically speaking

Ian Glendinning ian.glendinning at gmail.com
Mon May 3 04:01:50 PDT 2010


Hi Andre, I got your hint.

By suggesting it was "surely" a stepping stone, I intended
rhetorically .... "and not something fundamental". I would be (is for
some people) a hindrance to treat is as such.

Ian

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ian to Andre:
>
> PS, and yes Andre SOL is surely one such stepping stone on "the road
> beneath our wheels".
>
> Andre:
> Hello Ian, but what I was getting at is; is the SOL interpretation a
> 'stepping stone' as you say, or a hindrance, as I was hinting at?
>
> My question comes from Bodvar's oft pontification that one cannot understand
> the MOQ properly unless one accepts his SOL interpretation. Now, I think
> that that is (as dmb has pointed out to Mary) more of a fundamentalist
> stance than anything else.
>
> I thought that one of Mr. Pirsig's aims of presenting the MOQ was to help us
> 'see' better. To assist us towards becoming 'awake' ( in the Buddha sense).
> To see things without the interference of dogma, authority, concepts,
> reports, books... without the MOQ!!By direct experience, living the moment
> now.
>
> This is where Phaedrus wants us to go (each following our own dharma) and
> this is what he meant when he said 'Kill all intellectual patterns'.
>
> Bodvar simply says: NO! You cannot reach enlightenment unless you 'go
> through and accept my SOL'!!!
>
> The subjects and the objects he has created plus the Cartesian objective
> over subjective stance he assumes seem to be more solid than mountains...and
> diamonds!( which are, after all, inorganic patterns of value).
>
>
>
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