[MD] horse reviewing bennett

[Horse]

Hi John

JB has resigned from the list as he stated, along with the usual 
invective expected from a sulky prima donna when asked to play nicely, 
along the lines of anti freedom of speech, mean spiritedness etc. which 
isn't the case. I can't say I'm that bothered about his disappearance 
and I did give him a chance to alter the way he views the purpose of 
this list, which is to discuss the MoQ and Pirsigs work in general.
Let me make it quite clear that I have no problem at all with your views 
on theism, intelligence, your fascination with Joyce or whatever it is 
that you want to discuss because I believe that underlying this is an 
interest in Pirsigs work. Similarly, other members are, as always, free 
to join in with their views and different perspectives and discuss their 
current interests in relation to the MoQ and Pirsig. I like variety and 
don't want the list to get bogged down with a single view of how we talk 
and relate our positions to one another, the MoQ and to Pirsig. Platt 
has his way, Bo has his, Marsha has hers, Mary hers, Dave, Steve, Ian, 
Arlo, Andre, Adrie etc. etc. have theirs. Even Ham, with his view of how 
the MoQ relates to his essentialism is welcome here because he conducts 
himself well, makes interesting points, gives others a chance to 
disagree and doesn't treat others as if they were simple minded fools - 
well not most of the time or any more than anyone else. :) I may not 
agree with Ham or you, Bo, Platt, Marsha, Mary or anyone else on the 
list but I don't tell you what you may or may not say or think or how to 
express yourselves.
But when some arrogant gobshite turns up on the list and effectively 
tries to tell me that my friends are a bunch of cultish (yes I did spell 
that correctly) fuckwits discussing the unoriginal, naive and childish 
ramblings of a rank amateur philosopher that gets right up my nose. For 
my money, the only cult (incorrect spelling) around here was JB. He was 
not going to achieve his desire to dominate the list with a position 
that has nothing to do with the MoQ and was completely at odds with just 
about everything that Pirsigs work promotes. I think he realised this 
and decided that remaining would be a waste of his time and ours.
We got the usual old hypocritical crap about freedom etc. as if he'd 
accept the same in a similar position.

As you said John, metaphysics ain't for sissies!

Horse


On 03/05/2010 06:01, John Carl wrote:
> Ok Adrie.
>
> And horse.
>
> And all.
>
> I wanna weigh in on the topic myself.  I promised JB I wouldn't make any
> personal comments about him or analyze him for he found that offensive.  So
> I've tried to keep my, um, "mouth" shut.
>
> But there's probably more I should say along these lines, because after all,
> if anybody has been in defense of theism, I have, so far.  Getting a fellow
> god-thinking type person has a lot of attraction to me.
>
> But....  I thought Horse's admonition was perfect, to the point and
> apropos.
>
> At the same time, i hope JB takes his lumps and sticks it out.  If not, oh
> well.  Metaphysics ain't for sissies.
>
> I will say one thing in his defense.  He thought Dan Glover was RMP in
> disguise.  I appreciated that.   If there's a better rhetorician, writer or
> person that this list, or this society for that matter, has offered up than
> Dan, I've yet to meet the person.  Seeing Dan's quality, right off the bat
> like that, seems a sign of good sense at least and if he (JB) does decide to
> straighten up and stick around I'm willing to give him another chance.
>
> Openess to dynamic change is a better indicator than static excellence.
>
> 'nuff said.
>
> John
>
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Fam. Kintziger-Karaca<
> kintziger_karaca at hotmail.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> Hi , Group
>> Need to say this horse , i was reading some postings , came across the last
>> bennett-horse item.
>>
>> reading Bennet somethimes since i am here,......
>> have to agree , that these enforced items he is declaring , are in fact ,
>> total crap.
>> it not only is deviating people towards the wrong points of view , it
>> deviates them away from their patterns of value.
>> complete crap.
>>
>> It is the introduction of the crap-level towards  the set of mr Pirsig.
>>
>>
>> been reading this fundamentalist-issue emerging.
>> this is my opinion, fundamentalists  and die-hards are not the same ,
>> fundamentalists are , in  fact, dangerous.
>>
>> Regards Adrie.
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