[MD] horse reviewing bennett

[Khoo Hock Aun]

A word of thanks to you Horse for keeping this group going and the time
taken to ensure a conducive environment for the free flowing dynamic
discussions. I

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Horse <horse at darkstar.uk.net> wrote:

> Hi John
>
> JB has resigned from the list as he stated, along with the usual invective
> expected from a sulky prima donna when asked to play nicely, along the lines
> of anti freedom of speech, mean spiritedness etc. which isn't the case. I
> can't say I'm that bothered about his disappearance and I did give him a
> chance to alter the way he views the purpose of this list, which is to
> discuss the MoQ and Pirsigs work in general.
> Let me make it quite clear that I have no problem at all with your views on
> theism, intelligence, your fascination with Joyce or whatever it is that you
> want to discuss because I believe that underlying this is an interest in
> Pirsigs work. Similarly, other members are, as always, free to join in with
> their views and different perspectives and discuss their current interests
> in relation to the MoQ and Pirsig. I like variety and don't want the list to
> get bogged down with a single view of how we talk and relate our positions
> to one another, the MoQ and to Pirsig. Platt has his way, Bo has his, Marsha
> has hers, Mary hers, Dave, Steve, Ian, Arlo, Andre, Adrie etc. etc. have
> theirs. Even Ham, with his view of how the MoQ relates to his essentialism
> is welcome here because he conducts himself well, makes interesting points,
> gives others a chance to disagree and doesn't treat others as if they were
> simple minded fools - well not most of the time or any more than anyone
> else. :) I may not agree with Ham or you, Bo, Platt, Marsha, Mary or anyone
> else on the list but I don't tell you what you may or may not say or think
> or how to express yourselves.
> But when some arrogant gobshite turns up on the list and effectively tries
> to tell me that my friends are a bunch of cultish (yes I did spell that
> correctly) fuckwits discussing the unoriginal, naive and childish ramblings
> of a rank amateur philosopher that gets right up my nose. For my money, the
> only cult (incorrect spelling) around here was JB. He was not going to
> achieve his desire to dominate the list with a position that has nothing to
> do with the MoQ and was completely at odds with just about everything that
> Pirsigs work promotes. I think he realised this and decided that remaining
> would be a waste of his time and ours.
> We got the usual old hypocritical crap about freedom etc. as if he'd accept
> the same in a similar position.
>
> As you said John, metaphysics ain't for sissies!
>
> Horse
>
>
>
> On 03/05/2010 06:01, John Carl wrote:
>
>> Ok Adrie.
>>
>> And horse.
>>
>> And all.
>>
>> I wanna weigh in on the topic myself.  I promised JB I wouldn't make any
>> personal comments about him or analyze him for he found that offensive.
>>  So
>> I've tried to keep my, um, "mouth" shut.
>>
>> But there's probably more I should say along these lines, because after
>> all,
>> if anybody has been in defense of theism, I have, so far.  Getting a
>> fellow
>> god-thinking type person has a lot of attraction to me.
>>
>> But....  I thought Horse's admonition was perfect, to the point and
>> apropos.
>>
>> At the same time, i hope JB takes his lumps and sticks it out.  If not, oh
>> well.  Metaphysics ain't for sissies.
>>
>> I will say one thing in his defense.  He thought Dan Glover was RMP in
>> disguise.  I appreciated that.   If there's a better rhetorician, writer
>> or
>> person that this list, or this society for that matter, has offered up
>> than
>> Dan, I've yet to meet the person.  Seeing Dan's quality, right off the bat
>> like that, seems a sign of good sense at least and if he (JB) does decide
>> to
>> straighten up and stick around I'm willing to give him another chance.
>>
>> Openess to dynamic change is a better indicator than static excellence.
>>
>> 'nuff said.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Fam. Kintziger-Karaca<
>> kintziger_karaca at hotmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi , Group
>>> Need to say this horse , i was reading some postings , came across the
>>> last
>>> bennett-horse item.
>>>
>>> reading Bennet somethimes since i am here,......
>>> have to agree , that these enforced items he is declaring , are in fact ,
>>> total crap.
>>> it not only is deviating people towards the wrong points of view , it
>>> deviates them away from their patterns of value.
>>> complete crap.
>>>
>>> It is the introduction of the crap-level towards  the set of mr Pirsig.
>>>
>>>
>>> been reading this fundamentalist-issue emerging.
>>> this is my opinion, fundamentalists  and die-hards are not the same ,
>>> fundamentalists are , in  fact, dangerous.
>>>
>>> Regards Adrie.
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