[MD] e: Reading & Comprehension

[MarshaV]

Andre,

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     "The student Doko came to a Zen master, and said: "I am seeking the 
truth.  In what state of mind should I train myself, so as to find it?"  
     Said the master, "There is no mind, so you cannot put it in any state.
There is no truths, so you cannot train yourself for it."
     "If there is no mind to train, and no truth to find, why do you have these 
monks gather before you every day to study Zen and train thenselves for
this study?"
     "But I haven't an inch of room here," said the master, "so how could the
monks gather?  I have no tongue, so how could I call them together or 
teach them?"
     "Oh, how can you lie like this?"  asked Doko.
     "But if I have no tongue to talk to others, how can I lie to you?" asked
the master.
     Then Doko said sadly, "I cannot follow you.  I cannot understand you."
     I cannot understand myself," said the master.
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What does a koan do? 


Marsha



On May 9, 2010, at 11:26 PM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Mary to John and Arlo:
> 
> Well, let me say it a clearer way, then.  The metaphysics itself, the books,
> the logic, the arguments, the explanations, are all SOM\SOL.  If they
> weren't, we wouldn't be able to read about it in books or talk about it
> here.  The MoQ - the Metaphysics - is a static representation of the Dynamic
> Quality but not the Quality itself.
> 
> This distinction is probably also the source of our disagreement above about
> the East?
> 
> Andre:
> 'Koans are designed to break the idea that an understanding of reality is necessarily gained through rational means.
> 'LILA was originally conceived of as a case-book in philosophy."Does Lila have Quality? is its central question.It was intended to parallel the ancient Rinzai Zen koans (which literally means 'public cases') and in particular Joshu's 'Mu'which asks:'Does a dog have a Buddha nature?' ( Anthony's PhD, pp 44/5).
> 
> It seems to me that when everything is reduced to SOM/SOL we are missing some very important insights.
> 
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