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Marsha, Arlo.

11 May.:

[Arlo]
> > If all intellectual patterns are SOM, what is the "cancerous"
> > element you speak of? Indeed, what was it that Pirsig lamented when
> > the Sophists were run under by Plato? We certainly can't lament that
> > intellect was infested with SOM, since intellect IS SOM. I suppose
> > you could lament that intellect achieved dominance, but if that is a
> > bad thing, why did Pirsig place it atop his moral hierarchy?

ZAMM needs some MOQ adjustment and the Sophist issue is the 
most needy issue. Their strife with Plato was the budding intellectual 
level's subjectivism's versus its objectivism that still haunts intellect  
...in its SOM capacity role!!!!!. Intellect was not infested with SOM, 
rather the S/O value fossilizes into a S/O METAPHYSICS !!!  

Marsha:
> I understand intellectual patterns to be built on the SOM premise. 
> Some will stay valid, some will become irrelevant or, indeed, harmful.
>  Those intellectual patterns that lose their validity will fall back
> into oblivion.  

Right you are Marsha, Intellect's value is the S/O distinction, which 
went unchecked on to become a SOM which has given the West a 
technological heaven but a metaphysical hell  ... until RMP came and 
cut the Gordic Knot that was impossible to see - much less cut - from 
within SOM , within intellect. It requires a  bootstrap operation to lift 
ourselves to the Quality level, something the academics have no 
intention of trying, they  want, the MOQ  to remain an intellectual 
pattern and as long as that view rules it's just a complicated  SOM. 
Arlo may be small fry here, it's DMB who is the big roadblock. 
 
Bodvar 





















> > [Marsha]
> > "All one has to do"?  Right!  I'm not so stupid to fall for that
> > kind of trickery.  Must you resort to such nonsense.

> > [Arlo]
> > Sigh. I suppose I should just "meow" and pretend that people don't
> > write here what they do.
> 
> Marsha:
> Your statement was in the same category as "Every schoolchild knows." 
> It's an insult, and I would prefer not to play that way.  So meow away
> if you think that wins you intellectual points.  I will just ignore
> you, or stop playing.   
> 
> 
> > 
> > [Marsha]
> > If you do not like the intellectual level being an advancement over
> > the social level, maybe you do not agree with the idea of evolution?
> > 
> > [Arlo]
> > Huh? Is today "opposite day"? Did I miss that?
> 
> Marsha:
> Maybe I misunderstood, but it seemed you were defending the social
> level from being called inferior to the intellectual level.  
> 
> 
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