[MD] the sophists

[MarshaV]

On May 14, 2010, at 7:55 AM, MarshaV wrote:

>> ""Man is the measure of all things." Yes, that’s what he is saying about
>> Quality. Man is not the source of all things, as the subjective idealists would
>> say. Nor is he the passive observer of all things, as the objective idealists
>> and materialists would say. The Quality which creates the world emerges as a
>> relationship between man and his experience. He is a participant in the
>> creation of all things." (ZMM)
>> 

>> Arlo:
>> The intellectual patterns emerging from the Sophists were not SOM. They were
>> clearly something better. And it is HERE that the SOM infestation of Western
>> culture began. And it is HERE that Pirsig begins his treatise on correcting
>> this.

Marsha:
Maybe what RMP saw emerging from the Sophists was that the Sophists were 
Contextualists and Constructivists???  

Ahh, but here's a fitting quotes from Lila:

"What was clear was that if he was going to do anything with anthropology the 
place to do it was not in anthropology itself but in the general body of assumptions 
upon which it rests. The solution to the anthropological blockage was not to try to 
construct some new anthropological theoretic structure but to first find some solid 
ground upon which such a structure can be constructed. It was this conclusion that 
placed him right in the middle of the field of philosophy known as metaphysics. 
Metaphysics would be the expanded format in which whites and white anthropology 
could be contrasted to Indians and 'Indian anthropology' without corrupting everything 
into a white anthropological walled-in jargonized way of looking at things.
    

Marsha:
Hmmm, "walled-in jargonized way of looking at things."    

Here more:

"That's how you know when you're within a walled city, Phaedrus thought. The jargon.  
They've cut themselves off from the rest of the world and are speaking a jargon only 
they can really understand." 
 



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