[MD] e: Reading & Comprehension

[John Carl]

Marsha, Marsha, Marsha.

Nature is a static pattern?  Then you believe everything is.  I can't
imagine anything more dynamic than  nature.

At least the nature we have here in California, but I'm quite sure its the
same everywhere.


On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:25 PM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

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> Hi Ian,
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> I'm not sure how I responded to is "NATURE is intellect", but 'nature' is
> a static pattern of value, not an absolute.  No matter how forceful he
> states it, I'm not going to take anything as a given until I consider it
> fully.  I was discussing a level of patterns, and I had the feeling he was
> discussing 'thinking'.  There is something in the way he uses the
> word 'intellect' that makes me think it's about thinking in general.
>


Just this morning I was thinking about my earlier discussion with Horse and
Arlo on the dividing line between intellect and intelligence, and how that
fits with know-how vs. know-that and it sems very clear to me this morning
that know-how is intelligence and know-that is intellect.

An amoeba knows how to avoid a puddle of acid, but it doesn't know that it's
avoiding a puddle of acid.  Know-how is biological and know-that is human.

Doesn't it all just sort of dovetail together nicely?  I feel like I'm
getting a really solid metaphysical understanding (know-that) here.


>
> One can look at all patterns as 'conceptions', or one can look at
> what patterns represent, their category or function.  I can all too
> easily toss it all off to conceptual vapor, and go chop wood.  But I'm
> curious to thoroughly understand how it works.  If I can.  It is not
> unimportant to the way lives are lived.
>
> Am I weird?
>


Compared to normal people, probably.  Compared to me and others on MD, no.

Chopping Wood?  Today is the day for gardening.  Nature beckons!

take care,

John



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> On May 16, 2010, at 1:02 AM, Ian Glendinning wrote:
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> > Arlo, Marsha,
> >
> > Marsha, is your problem reacting to Arlo saying this is how it is -
> > the insulting schoolmasterly impression - because you are missing that
> > his sentences start with IF ?
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> > Just logical consequences of the statements of others.
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> > Ian
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> > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:
> >> [Marsha]
> >> The
> >> lament
> >> is
> >> based
> >> on
> >> a
> >> misconception:
> >> that
> >> entities (self & object)
> >> exist
> >> independently.
> >>
> >> [Arlo]
> >> Which is... TAADAA!.. SOM! If ALL intellectual patterns are SOM, this is
> NOT
> >> a misconception, it is the NATURE of intellect.
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