[MD] the sophists

[Ham Priday]

Arlo quoting Pirsig on 5/16:

""Man is the measure of all things." [the Sophists] Yes, that's what he is
saying about Quality. Man is not the source of all things, as the subjective
idealists would say. Nor is he the passive observer of all things, as the
objective idealists and materialists would say." (ZMM)

I totally agree.

Bodvar [with my edit] to Arlo on 5/16:


> (Don't you see the futility of your effort to avoid a MOQ
> adjustment of ZAMM?  If SOM was an invasion of a
> pre-existing intellect),
> what is this "intellect" other than the good old "mind" -
> a mental compartment where ideas are conceived
> [analyzed] and stored -  and by this token everything
> is intellectual.

My view, exactly!

--Ham