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John 

20 May you said

> In English love can be translated as "caring" or "values".  I LOVE ice
> cream is I VALUE ice cream.

Yes, that goes for all languages, but Americans have inflated the term 
"love" to mean almost any kind of liking. In our "Scandinavian" the 
same term is much more lofty  and solemn.        

> Biological love is procreation, social love is celebrity and
> intellectual love is truth.

A strange way of putting it. Procreation requires a strong biological 
drive called "lust".  The social level means biology brought under 
control of a higher Good and the purely biological sensations are 
overlaid by emotions, in this case  LOVE  (not of ice cream). Celebrity 
may be called a "social lust" that intellect (SOM) in its turn brings 
under control by rational rules and calls it "politics".      

> The reason classic SOM has difficulty defining what is love, is this
> MoQ truth that love has many levels
 
It's no MOQ tenet that love has many levels. I don't believe that Pirsig 
speaks much about "love" at all, but in its time I launched a 
corresponding list of "expressions" (I called).

              Interaction .Sensation - Emotion - Reason .  

And I still find this most relevant and useful.

Bodvar






















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> > Hi Frank
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> > 19 May. you wrote:
> >
> > > Love is to Biology as Law is to Social as Truth is to
> > > Intellectual.
> >
> > I drop your colloqualisms, as a "foreigner" I'm out of my depth
> > there. However love is an emotion and thus social (sex is biology!).
> > However Truth as intellect is spot on. It's the "objectivity" of the
> > subject/object distinction.
> >
> > Back to the social and law issue. Of course "law" is ONE mighty
> > social pattern, but "emotion" is THE renegade biological pattern
> > that "took off on a purpose of its own" to form the social level as
> > a reality of its own. There surely were early tribal societies that
> > had no criminal law, the emotional bonds were its glue. First it was
> > strictly parent child, then family, then klan, then "our cause"
> > (cosa nostra) and the rest is the history of increasing social
> > complexity.
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> > Bodvar
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