[MD] Relativism

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Wed May 26 04:42:21 PDT 2010


Hi Mary,

In Ant's new dvd, 'The MOQ at Oxford', there is a section on the 
Code of Art.  Maybe it will help illuminate the discussion concerning art.   


Marsha  





On May 26, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Mary wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> 
> 
> On Behalf Of John Carl
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:20 AM
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> 
>> And ultimately, intellect is only half the story of 4th level
>> patterning.
>> It's the classic half.  The artistic, romantically inclined aesthetic
>> half,
>> which is where realization comes from is the important part - with
>> ineffable
>> DQ at the very (unobtainable) apex of the level.  Realizations come
>> from the
>> same mysterious place that hypothesi enter human consciousness, and
>> THEN
>> become intellectualized.
>> 
>> 
> [Mary Replies] 
> I don't think the other levels are cut off from DQ.  All levels have equal
> access to DQ at any time.  If they fail to appear to its only because of the
> heavy weight of existing static latches.  Realizations can and do continue
> to occur in the Social Level.  There's no law I'm aware of that says once a
> Level has been "topped out" by another Level, it can no longer respond to
> Quality.  For this reason, I'm leaning more and more strongly toward the
> notion that art is a Social Level function.  In broad, general terms, if you
> can say that the Biological is about life and the Intellectual is about
> ideas, then the Social is about communication.  All art is a form of
> communication - a representation of our need to express. 
>> 
>> 
>>  The 4th level isn't a discrete level at all, since it's unbounded and
>> mysterious on its upper end (Where hypothesis come from) and
>> theoretically
>> infinite - that is, you can always objectify the objectivity you've
>> got, ad
>> infinitum.
>> 
> [Mary Replies] 
> I think all the levels are unbounded and mysterious.
> 
> Best,
> Mary
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