[MD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] moors

[MarshaV]

Mary, 

I'm not sure why you found it necessary to respond, or to what?  
I suppose the Moors business is just an example of patterns from 
different perspectives, and not, from a philosophical pov, very 
important.    


Marsha 




On May 26, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Mary wrote:

> I barely know who Chistina Aguilera is.  This moved me.
> 
> Start at 3:40 in.
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> Incredible vocal control.
> Incredible stage presence.
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> Emotionally naked.  Powerful.
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> A sad song that had me grinning ear to ear in admiration.
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> formance-video/
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> Mary
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org [mailto:moq_discuss-
>> bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of MarshaV
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:01 PM
>> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>> Subject: Re: [MD] [Bulk] moors
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>> 
>> Adrie,
>> 
>> Ferdinand and Isabella drove the last of the Moors out of Spain in
>> 1492.  It is these Moors
>> I am wondering about.  Where did they resettled.  Yes, I know they were
>> assimilated; they
>> occupied Spain for seven hundred years.  Where did they go after they
>> were defeated.
>> They were a very educated, tolerant, intellectually advanced people,
>> what happened to
>> them?  Can they be identified with any area of the MiddleEast today?
>> I've been to the
>> mosque in Cordoba, I've been to the Alhambra in Granada, I've been all
>> through Andalusia,
>> these people left behind artifacts of incredible beauty.
>> 
>> I saw on the documentary that they are beginning to rewrite much about
>> the occupation.  So some
>> of what you knew 20 years ago, may not still apply.  Don't know.  It's
>> seems the good Catholics
>> tried erase all they could from minds of the people and the landscape.
>> Today archeologists are
>> rediscovering a history that has been for a long time lost.
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha
>> 
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>> 
>> On May 26, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Fam. Kintziger-Karaca wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Marsha
>>> Well, Marsha , about here where i live 20 miles away, two spanisch
>> wars occured , Belgium en Holland
>>> were long time occupied by Spain,first, war between de
>> "Staatsen"Hollanders , and the Spanish -1568
>>> 1648, then after this the Spanish succesion war between 1702-1713.
>>> 
>>> so given this wars , and my interest in thes events , i have a big
>> knowledge of these events.
>>> its possible to feed my interest , because many of the fortifications
>> are still here.
>>> aside of this gathering of warinfo , long time ago , ik came across
>> the question about the dissapeared Moors
>>> in Spain.so i had to solve the riddle then.
>>> The Moors simply merged , blended in with the Spanisch population,
>> they assimilated.
>>> I never found proof for the item, but in that time, internet was not
>> availiable like it is now .
>>> 
>>> after your question, i did soms reexamination, and of cours found a
>> nice wiki-artikel on the matter
>>> concluding and showing proof on the assimilation.
>>> 
>>> this is the link  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors
>>> 
>>> the subject is under "population genetics"
>>> 
>>> I knew this 30 years ago!
>>> 
>>> now a goodie-
>>> not only some are exported towards the Spanish colonys, in the
>> aftermath of their assimilation, some
>>> became famous beiing the first Moors in the us, exported from Spain,
>> imported to the new world.
>>> 
>>> First Moor in America
>>> 
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estevanico
>>> 
>>> so-provable; the dna strain of the Moors can be found back in the
>> americas.
>>> 
>>> so , in answer on your question, "where did the Moors go?"
>>> 
>>> They are , in fact on your doorstep.
>>> Yours sincerely
>>> Adrie
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