[MD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] moors

[Mary]

Hi Marsha!

Sorry to be confusing!  I should have started my own thread, but was reading
this one at the time.  Christina Aguilara has nothing at all to do with the
Moors. :)  I just stumbled upon this and found it to be of very high Quality
(for me, anyway).

Mary

> Mary,
> 
> I'm not sure why you found it necessary to respond, or to what?
> I suppose the Moors business is just an example of patterns from
> different perspectives, and not, from a philosophical pov, very
> important.
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 26, 2010, at 10:53 PM, Mary wrote:
> 
> > I barely know who Chistina Aguilera is.  This moved me.
> >
> > Start at 3:40 in.
> >
> > Incredible vocal control.
> > Incredible stage presence.
> >
> > Emotionally naked.  Powerful.
> >
> > A sad song that had me grinning ear to ear in admiration.
> >
> > http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/05/26/christina-aguilera-american-
> idol-per
> > formance-video/
> >
> >
> > You lost me,
> > Mary
> >
> > - The most important thing you will ever make is a realization.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org [mailto:moq_discuss-
> >> bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of MarshaV
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:01 PM
> >> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> Subject: Re: [MD] [Bulk] moors
> >>
> >>
> >> Adrie,
> >>
> >> Ferdinand and Isabella drove the last of the Moors out of Spain in
> >> 1492.  It is these Moors
> >> I am wondering about.  Where did they resettled.  Yes, I know they
> were
> >> assimilated; they
> >> occupied Spain for seven hundred years.  Where did they go after
> they
> >> were defeated.
> >> They were a very educated, tolerant, intellectually advanced people,
> >> what happened to
> >> them?  Can they be identified with any area of the MiddleEast today?
> >> I've been to the
> >> mosque in Cordoba, I've been to the Alhambra in Granada, I've been
> all
> >> through Andalusia,
> >> these people left behind artifacts of incredible beauty.
> >>
> >> I saw on the documentary that they are beginning to rewrite much
> about
> >> the occupation.  So some
> >> of what you knew 20 years ago, may not still apply.  Don't know.
> It's
> >> seems the good Catholics
> >> tried erase all they could from minds of the people and the
> landscape.
> >> Today archeologists are
> >> rediscovering a history that has been for a long time lost.
> >>
> >>
> >> Marsha
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 26, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Fam. Kintziger-Karaca wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Marsha
> >>> Well, Marsha , about here where i live 20 miles away, two spanisch
> >> wars occured , Belgium en Holland
> >>> were long time occupied by Spain,first, war between de
> >> "Staatsen"Hollanders , and the Spanish -1568
> >>> 1648, then after this the Spanish succesion war between 1702-1713.
> >>>
> >>> so given this wars , and my interest in thes events , i have a big
> >> knowledge of these events.
> >>> its possible to feed my interest , because many of the
> fortifications
> >> are still here.
> >>> aside of this gathering of warinfo , long time ago , ik came across
> >> the question about the dissapeared Moors
> >>> in Spain.so i had to solve the riddle then.
> >>> The Moors simply merged , blended in with the Spanisch population,
> >> they assimilated.
> >>> I never found proof for the item, but in that time, internet was
> not
> >> availiable like it is now .
> >>>
> >>> after your question, i did soms reexamination, and of cours found a
> >> nice wiki-artikel on the matter
> >>> concluding and showing proof on the assimilation.
> >>>
> >>> this is the link  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors
> >>>
> >>> the subject is under "population genetics"
> >>>
> >>> I knew this 30 years ago!
> >>>
> >>> now a goodie-
> >>> not only some are exported towards the Spanish colonys, in the
> >> aftermath of their assimilation, some
> >>> became famous beiing the first Moors in the us, exported from
> Spain,
> >> imported to the new world.
> >>>
> >>> First Moor in America
> >>>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estevanico
> >>>
> >>> so-provable; the dna strain of the Moors can be found back in the
> >> americas.
> >>>
> >>> so , in answer on your question, "where did the Moors go?"
> >>>
> >>> They are , in fact on your doorstep.
> >>> Yours sincerely
> >>> Adrie
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