[MD] Reading & Comprehension

[Mary]

I guess it's because I'm a woman that men naturally assume I inherited
insight from Bodvar.  From a man's point of view, it's incomprehensible that
I'd arrive at my own conclusions.  Sure.  I'm used to that.  So was Lila.

Read the post Marsha put up just before yours: [MD] Lila's not anybody...

That says everything.  Maybe that's why I identify so much with black
Americans too.
Mary

- The most important thing you will ever make is a realization.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org [mailto:moq_discuss-
> bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Andre Broersen
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:06 AM
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] Reading & Comprehension
> 
> Mary to Andre:
> 
> I've said elsewhere I think that Pirsig's conception of the MoQ was the
> product of a high Quality thought process that's founded on SOM. In the
> beginning, at least, he used SOM to defeat itself.
> 
> Andre:
> I am sorry to drag this up again Mary, but I think you have got this
> from Bodvar.
> 'Quality became a pivotal term for personal historical reasons- it
> resulted from the flow of events that occurred in Bozeman, Montana, as
> documented in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Quality was
> adopted dynamically. The term itself had high Quality. I just felt
> 'Quality'had quality the way the students just 'felt'some student
> papers were better than others. I used to give students the advice,
> 'First you just 'see' what has quality, then you figure out why. Don't
> reverse the process, or you will get all confused'. It is important to
> restate this now to avoid the perennial literary critics'trap of
> thinking that the pivotal term quality is the result of some rational,
> analyzable process' (Mr. Pirsig in Anthony's Textbook, p23)
> 
> Further more, consider how Phaedrus describes the 'growth'of the MOQ:
> 
> 'It was fascinating to watch this thing grow. No one that he knew had
> ever written a whole mataphysics before and there were no rules for
> doing it and no way of predicting how it would progress'.
> 
> Remember Phaedrus had written everything down on slips and he has
> purposefully tried to order them 'organizing and reorganizing so many
> times  become dizzy trying to fit them all together. He'd just about
> given up...now the main purpose of the slips was not to help him
> remember anything. It was to help him to forget it. That sounded
> contradictory but the purpose was to keep his head empty, to put all
> his ideas of the past four years on that pilot berth where he didn't
> have to think of them.That was what he wanted.'(LILA Chapter 2).
> 
> Need Mr. Pirsig say more? Bodvar does not accept this. No, it must be
> out of SOM (to reinforce his interpretation of his intellectual level)!
> 
> The MOQ chose itself. It was no product of 'high quality thought' as
> you would have it Mary. It was arrived at Dynamically!
> 
> And, may I add in parenthesis that this is only one of Bodvar's
> multitude of misinterpretations and misunderstandings!
> 
> For what it is worth.
> 
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