[MD] the sophists

[Gareth Evans]

I know that I have been told to stop with the Greek stuff but in Protagorus,
The Socrates character admits that  arete,virtue or Pirsig's quality can be
taught for money. And then says 'but' instead of 'and'. Teaching quality is
an art not a science. One does their best but it does not always happen. It
does sometimes happen.

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:31 AM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:

>
> Bodvar to dmb:
> You skipped my points that "teaching quality itself" is plain impossible
> (for Heaven's sake DQ is indefinable and hence unteachable) except learning
> about it as the DQ/SQ dualism form, but THAT could only be realized after
> the static hierarchy was completed.
>
>
>
> dmb says:
>
> Like i said already, the classroom scenes within ZAMM in particular and
> both of Pirsig's books in general show quite clearly what it looks like to
> teach DQ. These are huge counter examples to your claim that Quality can't
> be taught. These example are so obvious and so large that no fancy argument
> is needed. Teaching Quality is just a matte of getting people to notice what
> they always already knew from experience.
>
> Sorry, nothing personal. I just think your theory has no merit. Sadly, I
> think it actually PREVENTS people from understanding the MOQ.
>
>
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