[MD] Reading & Comprehension

[Mary]

Hi Marsha,

> Hi Mary,
> 
> 
> I would ask if both inductive and deductive logic are included?  I
> think
> they both should be represented in the fourth level.  And I might
> consider
> whether fourth-level patterns come with their own intrinsic,
> unquestionable
> authority?
> 
[Mary Replies] 
Agree on all points.  One 'authority' has effectively been replaced by
another.

> While I think the fourth level is SOM all the way.  I hold the level
> structure
> lightly.  To me the nature of all patterns has had a far greater
> impact.
>
[Mary Replies] 
Exactly!  The definition of the Intellectual Level, though, is essential to
understanding the MoQ.  I don't think it's possible to grasp the enormity of
the implications inherent in a worldview of Value while clinging to the
notion that the Intellectual Level is more than SOM.
 
Best,
Mary

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> Marsha
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> On May 30, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Mary wrote:
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> > Hi Marsha,
> >
> > I think your definition agrees with mine, but would welcome comments.
> >
> > I-SPOV's:
> >
> > The set of patterns of value which state that subjects and objects
> are the
> > fundamental reality of the world and Quality is at best a property of
> > subjects or objects and at worst nothing more than an opinion.
> >
> > I-SPOV's say it is bad to accept a belief just because an authority
> figure
> > (political, religious, or otherwise) tells you so, since the only
> things
> > which can be known as fact as those things which can be proven by
> > observation or experimentation.
> >
> >
> > Mary
> >
> > On Behalf Of MarshaV
> >> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 4:45 AM
> >> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> >> Hi Bo,
> >>
> >> I've added the word 'rational' to my definition of the Intellectual-
> >> spovs.
> >>
> >>
> >> Intellectual Static Patterns of Value:
> >>
> >> Reified concepts and the rules for their rational manipulation.
> >> Intellectual
> >> patterns create false boundaries, giving the illusion of
> independence,
> >> or
> >> 'thingness'. The fourth level is a formalized subject/object (SOM)
> >> level
> >> where the subjective is supposedly stripped from the experience.
> >>
> >>
> >> Marsha
> >>
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