[MD] Intellectual Level

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Hi Marsh,
I like this, a process approach.  Defining though interaction and
congealment.

I would pose the following for discussion, which would be more of a boundary
approach.  That is, what is it that is forming the intellectual level from
the outside?  This would be similar to defining a lake by its boundaries
instead of by the cohesive interaction of water molecules through hydrogen
bonding and other principles.  Such an approach can also be taken in
descriptions of evolution.  That is, defining the morphology of species, not
by the expression of DNA itself, but by looking at the environmental factors
which control such expression.

So, one approach as you put is to describe the process of abstract concept
manipulation.  The other approach would be to describe something like Group
Consciousness (like Carl Jung), that provides boundaries for the expression
of the intellectual level.  Of course such boundaries can have grey areas,
and are up to interpretation.  So, my question, is what do you see the
intellectual level filling (for lack of a better word)?

This is not a trick or leading question, since I do not have a ready
comeback.  I am simply opening it up for discussion.

Cheers,
Mark

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:35 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:

>
> Greetings,
>
> My understanding/interpretation of the Intellectual Level is based on
> reification. The fourth level is comprised of static patterns of value such
> as theology, mathematics, science and philosophy. The way that these
> patterns function is as reified concepts and the rules for their rational
> analysis and manipulation.  Reification decontextualizes...  Intellectual
> patterns process from a subject/object point-of-view creating false
> boundaries that give the concept an illusion  of having independence as a
> “thing” or an “object of analysis.”  The fourth level is a formalized
> subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is for rational,
> objective knowledge, which is free from the taint of any subjectivity like
> emotions, inclinations, fears and compulsions in order to pursue, study and
> research in an unbiased and rational manner.
>
>
> Marsha
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