[MD] Betternes - 4 levels of!

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Hi dmb,
Thanks for that, I agree.
mark

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 3:11 PM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com>wrote:

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> Ron (on Wed, Nov 3) to dmb:
> I'm not quite sure I understand the resistance to the idea of linking the
> terms "betterness" with "value" and "Quality" some have.
>
>  Andre:
> Hi Ron, I just wanted to check with you whether this referred to something
> I said about the difference between Quality and value as I hinted at as
> Anthony describes in his PhD?
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> dmb says:
> If Pirsig's books had an index the term "quality" would have about 400
> entries. And that doesn't even include synonyms like "betterness", "values".
> "morals" or the "good". There are species and kinds within the static realm
> and Dynamic Quality shows up when you're sitting on a hot stove or achieving
> enlightenment. These distinctions matter and yet reality is nothing but
> quality. The logic chopping we do around it is never really going to nail
> anything down. The secondary conceptualizations are good only to the extent
> that they work as concepts, to the extent that they can be grasped and used
> for some purpose. And hopefully that purpose is maintaining or improving the
> quality of life somehow.
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> You guys know that. I'm just saying "keep your eye on the ball". Or, as
> Emerson says, man should not be subdued by his instruments. You know, let us
> not be a slave to our own tools. Words and ideas are just tools. If Ant
> makes a distinction between Quality and value, I strongly suspect the
> interesting part would be the "why" and the "what for".
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