[MD] BioCentrism: Was Zeno correct?

[ADRIE KINTZIGER]

motion is a facet of the physikal reality

2010/11/7 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com>

> Hi Adrie,
> Thanks for that.  I guess the premise is whether, reality is motionless or
> not.  Certainly through a view of SOM and Cause/Effect, reality appears to
> be in motion.  At least that would be the perception.  Zeno was not looking
> at people walking and such, but at underlying paradoxes, which is also an
> appropriate inquiry.  He may be pointing more to the inability of logic to
> provide description to reality.  As such, the use of motion is incomplete,
> and paradoxical.
>
> So my question to your Adrie, is whether you consider Quality to be in
> motion or not.  I believe this is an appropriate question and cannot simply
> be dismissed with the statement that Quality cannot be defined.  I am
> asking
> for an opinion, as such it does not impose rigid definitive qualities.  So
> is Quality in motion or not?  Those are the only two answers to choose
> from.
>  If Quality equals reality as has been suggested then Quality is in motion.
>  This would indeed be an important premise that we can discuss through the
> request for more details on the nature of this motion.  Remember that I am
> not asking about dynamic quality (DQ).
>
> What say you about this detail?
>
> By the way, my bird is from the Windup Bird Chronicle, by Murakami.  Good
> book, give it a read if you have a chance, it may have been translated into
> Flemish, or Dutch, or French.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 1:14 PM, ADRIE KINTZIGER <parser666 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > (Adrie]
>
>
>
> > Zam, Page 219
> > quote
> > "The followers of Heraclitus insisted the immortal priciple
> > was change and motion.
> > But Parmenides'disciple, Zeno,proved trough a series of
> > paradoxes that any perception of motion and change is illusory.
> > Reality had to be motionless."end.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > ---nothing changed
> >
> > comment, already here in zam Pirsig recognised that Zeno
> > made a capital mistake.
> > reality cannot be motionless.
> >
> > from this moment on, Pirsig will fight this static interpretation
> > in all of his following work.
> >
> > What was Zeno's mistake? well this,
> > "proved trough a series of paradoxes that any perception...etc"
> >
> > The error is a false observation from Zeno,a contaminated one,
> > and Pirsig recognised it.
> >
> >
> > He is dealing with it in the quote from the moq and time
> > i presented,
> >
> > But in the metaphysiks of Quality itself he is shredding this to
> >
> > pieces totally.
> >
> > We have to pay attention , Mark, there are no unimportant details.
> > "Attention", the bird says..
> >
> >
> >
> >
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