[MD] Humanism

[118]

>
> Hi Marsha,
>

I thought I would take your post to give a comment on Wallace.  I listened
to part of a series on the conscious universe as is available on the web.  I
understand where he is coming from and he does apply great rhetoric.  What
kind of turns me off is his premise of actually imparting something that is
more real than something else.  He does bring Eastern thought in through his
understanding of physics which is entertaining, but ignores the
self-referencing principles that underly it.  It is based on certain
agreements that some people have.  There is no suggestion (so far) that this
is a personal interpretation and therefore is one of many.

As I see it, and I have presented this before, this infatuation with
knowledge does not realize that it is a creation of the human mind.  It has
no meaning beyond that.  Some creations can be considered more beautiful
than others.  This is where Quality comes in instead of truth.

I will leave you with the following metaphor.  We are all falling down a
deep well.  There is plenty of time to be creative during that fall.  We can
imagine what is at the bottom.  We can try to create concepts of the walls
which are passing us by.  And we have transmitters so that we can enter into
agreement with others on these creations.  We do not know why or where the
falling came from, nor can we.  In the meantime we entertain ourselves with
creations from the mind.  I personally like the way in which Alan Watts
brings in Eastern thought, better than Wallace.  Watts called himself an
entertainer, not a professor or Guru.  I found that refreshing and very
instructive.

Cheers,
Mark

> [Marsha]
> From B. Alan Wallace's book 'Embracing Mind: The Common Ground of Science &
> Spirituality:'
>
>     "The origin of doctrine of the two truths is found in a teaching
>     given by the Buddha on a mountaintop in northeastern India
>     called Vulture's Peak.  There he first expounded on emptiness,
>     and made the statement "Form is emptiness and emptiness is
>     form."  Note that "form" is considered relative truth and "emptiness"
>     ultimate truth in this system."
>
>
>
>
>
> ___
>
>
> Moq_Discuss mailing list
> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc.
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org
> Archives:
> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/
> http://moq.org/md/archives.html
>