[MD] Humanism

[MarshaV]

Mark,

I am disappoint that you do realize that I am a entertainer too, a 
dancer.  Oh well.   


Marsha  


 
On Nov 14, 2010, at 4:38 PM, 118 wrote:

>> 
>> Hi Marsha,
>> 
> 
> I thought I would take your post to give a comment on Wallace.  I listened
> to part of a series on the conscious universe as is available on the web.  I
> understand where he is coming from and he does apply great rhetoric.  What
> kind of turns me off is his premise of actually imparting something that is
> more real than something else.  He does bring Eastern thought in through his
> understanding of physics which is entertaining, but ignores the
> self-referencing principles that underly it.  It is based on certain
> agreements that some people have.  There is no suggestion (so far) that this
> is a personal interpretation and therefore is one of many.
> 
> As I see it, and I have presented this before, this infatuation with
> knowledge does not realize that it is a creation of the human mind.  It has
> no meaning beyond that.  Some creations can be considered more beautiful
> than others.  This is where Quality comes in instead of truth.
> 
> I will leave you with the following metaphor.  We are all falling down a
> deep well.  There is plenty of time to be creative during that fall.  We can
> imagine what is at the bottom.  We can try to create concepts of the walls
> which are passing us by.  And we have transmitters so that we can enter into
> agreement with others on these creations.  We do not know why or where the
> falling came from, nor can we.  In the meantime we entertain ourselves with
> creations from the mind.  I personally like the way in which Alan Watts
> brings in Eastern thought, better than Wallace.  Watts called himself an
> entertainer, not a professor or Guru.  I found that refreshing and very
> instructive.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
> 
>> [Marsha]
>> From B. Alan Wallace's book 'Embracing Mind: The Common Ground of Science &
>> Spirituality:'
>> 
>>    "The origin of doctrine of the two truths is found in a teaching
>>    given by the Buddha on a mountaintop in northeastern India
>>    called Vulture's Peak.  There he first expounded on emptiness,
>>    and made the statement "Form is emptiness and emptiness is
>>    form."  Note that "form" is considered relative truth and "emptiness"
>>    ultimate truth in this system."
>> 
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