[MD] [Bulk] Re: Humanism

[david buchanan]

dmb says:
Thanks Arlo. Sometimes I wonder if people see this situation the same way I see it. And you nailed it. Marsha always evades the evidence, pretends that no explanations were offered, and she never fails to add a hostile insult or two. She can do all this in a single sentence. In the sentence below, for example, she dismisses Pirsig's opinion by calling it a "press release" and she implies that I haven't even started to explain anything yet. 

Since all that evidence and all those explanations are on record in the archives, one would have to be pretty delusional to deny it. This behavior is so bizarre that it must be a psychological problem. Simple dishonesty and stupidity can't explain it. It can't be explained by mere weakness of mind or by face-saving bullshit. It's worse than that. She has even accused me several times of distorting her views when all I did was quote something she'd said earlier that day. She will literally reject her own statements to be against me.

Maybe compassion is the only proper response here but after somebody has insulted and dismissed you a hundred times, it's not very easy to be generous or charitable. Sadly, at this point, the only feelings I can muster are frustration, nausea and disgust. 

Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks. I needed a reality check and you've gone above and beyond that. We've never even met but you're defending me like a dear old friend. 



 
> [Marsha said:]
> Well, unless dmb starts explaining his interpretations, the press 
> release hasn't changed my mind.
> 
> [Arlo replied:]
> Since Pirsig seems able to understand from DMB's writing that DMB has 
> a deep and firm grasp of his ideas, do you think maybe the problem is 
> on your end? I mean, when Pirsig points out that DMB is one of the 
> foremost philosophers of the MOQ, and YOU think his understanding of 
> it is shallow, wouldn't this lead a normal person to think that maybe 
> its in them that the problem lies?
> 
> I am not about to pulled deeper into your carnival mirror, Marsha, 
> its evident that you have unrelenting hostility towards DMB, and that 
> no matter what explanations or evidence he offers, you dismiss it 
> before it even appears. I have seen him try repeatedly, in lengthy 
> posts, to explain things to you and you simply pretend like it never 
> happens. This is a psychological issue, not an intellectual one.