[MD] [Bulk] Re: Humanism

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Hi John,
Yes, I agree, I just sent Arlo a post on this.  The intellect as opposed to
the expression of intelligence .  When I am running from a bear, I don't
think much about it, but it sure seems like intellect at work there.  Some
people go up to feed it, sometimes with unexpected results.  Fools rush in,
isn't that the saying.

What I was wondering is, what is !=!=?  Perhaps this is the double negation
that Ham is speaking of (something of a wry smile or perplex humor kind of
symbol here).

Thanks,
Mark

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:35 PM, John Carl <ridgecoyote at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> I think you make a couple of important points:
>
>
>
> > [Mark]
> > Intellect is a tough one, I would say that the discussion of intellectual
> > ideas requires SOM. I believe this is Marsha's point.  Symbol
> manipulation
> > requires symbols.
> >
> >
> John:
>
> First, intellect IS a tough one.  Unlike some people, who seem to expect
> RMP's words to be some sort of holy writ that can't be challenged, I think
> the fact that this one is a toughie, ought to encourage us to look at it
> more deeply and examine it more thoroughly.  Help him out, so to speak.
>
> Second, I agree with Arlo that SOM != Intellect. For one thing, it says
> right on the label, "metaphysics"  and obviously intellectuals create
> metaphysical systems, but not all metaphysical systems are intellectual.
> But I do also agree with "Bo's many" that Intellect is dependent upon SOM.
> Unless you want to carve off the term "intellect" and turn it into some
> private-language meaning that only a limited few comprehend, you have to
> take the dictionary definition of intellect and that is heartless reason,
> and admit that it comes directly from a worldview of analytical cogito-ers,
> ergo-ily  summing it all up in their heads.
>
> My particular point, furthermore, is that intellect cannot be the highest
> aspiration of evolutionary development.  The dictionary definition of
> intellect, is non-artistic, for one thing.  It refers to a specific branch
> of human cognition that operates rationally by rules and analysis.  Not at
> all adequate for a label for the 4th level, imo.
>
>
> peace, man,
>
> John
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