[MD] Intellectual Level
MarshaV
valkyr at att.net
Mon Nov 15 21:50:44 PST 2010
On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:26 PM, 118 wrote:
> Hi Arlo,
>
> OK, two as symbolic language. I have no problem with that, I just didn't
> understand what you were talking about.
>
> I will drop the interpretation angle too. Sometimes it seems that I read
> Pirsig differently than others, but that is my problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Arlo Bensinger <ajb102 at psu.edu> wrote:
>
>> [Mark]
>> Could you give me an example of an abstract symbol that has no
>> corresponding particular experience?
>>
>> [Arlo]
>> "Two". Or "two-ness" if you prefer.
>>
>>
>> Pirsig's "goal" in the MOQ was to expand the nature of rationality, not to
>> condemn it. Intellect=SOM condemns rationality ipso facto. Do you feel your
>> Intellect=SOM points us towards a better solution than Pirsig was after?
>>
>
> [Mark]
> No I do not believe it is SOM, SOM comes out of the intellect but does not
> represent it. SOM is used for communication, but not for awareness.
> Intellect is also involved in awareness. That is, what happens before
> thoughts are constructed.
>
> IMO of course,
> Mark
Hi Mark,
Is awareness a pattern, an intellectual static pattern of value? Not in my experience.
One may be aware of a pattern flowing through mind, but the awareness is different.
But these words are not right either, so never mind.
Marsha
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