[MD] Rorty and Mysticism

[Ian Glendinning]

Matt
I agree
Ian

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matt Kundert
<pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Ian,
>
> Ian said:
> You said your problem is relating these two [mysticism-as-poetry
> with mysticism-as-radical-empiricism] ... reconciling Dave's view
> with yours. I was simply pointing out that Rorty has already joined
> mysticism to experience for you. What (either or both of) you
> should focus on was relating poetry to experience, in order to find
> the common rhetorical ground.
>
> Matt:
> Oh, I see: I guess I didn't see that as my problem.  I have no
> problem reconciling Dave's view--or rather, radical empiricism--with
> my own view.  Dave, however, does have a problem with my
> reconciliation maneuvers (as he just expressed).
>
> So, perhaps you're right, given what Dave just said about poetry,
> though this isn't my problem but rather his: the problem is "radical
> experience as poetry."  Poetry as the expression of human experience
> is something like what Rorty meant, and Rorty's Davidsonian
> definition of metaphor was as unintelligibility.  Combine the two, and
> you have what Rorty meant about mysticism as a kind of poetry, about
> mystical experience breaking up old ways of speaking.
>
> Matt
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