[MD] pre-intellectual experience

[MarshaV]

Ooops.  Was that autism?     - Marsha   

 

On Nov 21, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Matt Kundert wrote:

> 
> Marsha said:
> Matt's essay is very well written and full of interesting questions, but 
> what can you say to someone who doesn't want to use the 
> introspective techniques designed to investigate this for himself???
> 
> Matt:
> I guess this person doesn't understand how he _isn't_ investigating 
> things for himself (he's not really sure who else would be pulling the 
> levers of his mind).  I guess this person wasn't aware that there 
> were special "introspective techniques" available that he was 
> neglecting.  He wasn't aware that he had been doing anything other 
> than inspecting things from his own mind, in his own mind, 
> introspectively as it were.  He wasn't aware that there was a test he 
> had to pass before he would be deemed a free thinker whose mind 
> wasn't being controlled by others.
> 
> I guess this person doesn't understand what the difference is 
> between being told about introspective techniques and being told 
> anything else: either way, one takes whatever one is told and 
> applies themself.
> 
> What can you say to someone who doesn't want to use the 
> techniques that you've found helpful?  That sounds like the real 
> problem.
> 
> Matt
> 
>>> Mark:
>>> There has been discussion concerning the pre-intellectual experience, and I
>>> reread the essay which Matt Kundert provides on his website concerning the
>>> separation of DQ and SQ (
>>> http://pirsigaffliction.blogspot.com/2006/04/dynamic-quality-as-pre-intellectual.html
>>> ),
>>> which was recently referred to in MOQ discuss.  Matt does his best to
>>> outline the problem, and I found the essay instructive.
>> 
>> Matt,
>> 
>> Matt's essay is very well written and full of interesting questions, but what can you 
>> say to someone who doesn't want to use the introspective techniques designed to 
>> investigate this for himself???    
>> 
>> Marsha


 
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