[MD] Ah-ha Qua Ah-ha

[MarshaV]

Hi Matt,

I love it when you participate, and believe your literary point-
of-view has valuable insight.  Imho, your prose have gotten 
more beautiful, but some of your words and phrases are still not 
worth the effort.  I like my intellectuals to provide plains-spoken 
explanations, and many do.  While I may get frustrated, I don't 
get angry.  These are words, ideas, patterns; they may be 
important one minute and vanish the next.  Also, I have a good 
internal eraser.  

I do not feel the need to defend mediation.  In my experience 
it has much insightful knowledge to offer, but obviously it will 
not appeal to everyone.  My enthusiasm is no more than an 
expression of the positive effect its had on my life experiences.   
I also like to read, no, love to read.  And I, too, have learned new 
and interesting perspectives from books.  The Lear book, for 
instance, offered a perspective I might have never considered except 
through reading.  The ideas were very interesting.  I will soon start  
'The Surrounded'.  Thanks for the great recommendations.   


Marsha 

 
 
 
 

On Nov 24, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Matt Kundert wrote:

> 
> Hi Marsha,
> 
> Marsha said:
> What exactly do you mean by 'antiauthoritarian relativism.'  Without 
> explanation those two words seem a mouthful of marbles.
> 
> Matt:
> You might find a potted understanding of what I mean here:
> http://pirsigaffliction.blogspot.com/2007/12/philosophical-antiauthoritarianism.html
> The summary begins at the 5th paragraph (and only goes for about 4).  
> It is a summary of ideas I've been trying to understand since writing 
> "Philosophologology" and "Pirsig Institutionalized," both in the moq.org 
> Essay Forum.  I find that what you mean by "relativism" is basically all 
> I mean by "philosophical antiauthoritarianism," so I tried shoving both 
> marbles in at once.  I have a mouth a lot more flexible than most, I've 
> gathered over the years.
> 
> Marsha said:
> I very rarely get pissed off, so I might ask how you've jumped to the 
> conclusion that "assertional dominance" (Whatever that is?) "pisses 
> her off."?
> 
> Matt:
> Just an observation about a shift in tone that invariably occurs in all 
> of our conversations.  What typically happens is that you comment 
> nicely about something I've said, I open my mouth, and you become 
> progressively more and more defensive and tonally resentful (housed 
> variously in irony, sarcasm, and imperious questions).  That's just my 
> first-hand experience, at least.
> 
> Marsha said:
> The last thing is to tell you I like to intellectualize or I wouldn't be 
> participating in this forum.  While I appreciate the limitation of 
> intellectualizing, I enjoy its many benefits.
> 
> Matt:
> I know.  And I was trying to put my finger on what I sense as a conflict 
> in your perceived balance between intellectualizing and an appreciation 
> of its limitations.  Because, for those of us who don't constantly 
> acknowledge that intellectualizing isn't the whole ball of wax in life, we 
> get pounced upon by those who think we don't, thereby, acknowledge 
> it at all.  I think this conflict is an extension of how one conceives of 
> intellectualizing and the language/experience distinction.
> 
> Glad you're enjoying Lear.
> 
> Matt
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