[MD] a-theism and atheism

ADRIE KINTZIGER parser666 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 27 12:57:44 PST 2010


This is so little of you mark, so low, almost representing nothing
come to think of it, it is really representing nothing , wright?


2010/11/27 118 <ununoctiums at gmail.com>

> Hi dmb,
>
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:26 AM, david buchanan <dmbuchanan at hotmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > Arlo said to dmb:
> > You know, the funny thing is that those who pride themselves for being
> > "outside" the wall mistakenly think that they themselves are not behind
> an
> > "immune system" of some sort, that it only us damned interlictials that
> > suffer from being behind an immune system.
> >
> >
> > dmb says:
> > Funny? Again, you are much, much nicer than I am. I'd characterize these
> > "outsiders" as preposterous and ridiculous, which is to say they have it
> > exactly backwards and their objections are only meant as ridicule. In
> that
> > quote, Pirsig is asking the Oxfordians to give me and Ant a fair hearing.
> He
> > says we "deserve the careful, open-minded attention that early proponents
> of
> > any idea need" because the MOQ "is still in its infancy". He's asking the
> > academic insiders to listen to us and in that sense we are the outsiders.
> > Ant was the first in the world to get past that immune system. That's no
> > small feat, one that inspired me to change my whole life. That's not
> small
> > either. But the anti-intellectual crowd turns that on it's head, as if
> Ant
> > and I didn't go to Oxford to put ourselves into heart of the lion's den.
> >
> > Anyway, thanks again for being so sane and so gracious about this stuff.
> >
> > [Mark]
> >
> Yeah, Oxford Smoxford, did my thesis defense there under J. Albery who was
> the Master of University College at the time (oldest and largest of the
> colleges).  Great place, created by the monks, still has that religious
> flair.  Had to speak in tongues there.  All that God stuff going on, and
> the
> stodgy academicians.   I can see why you liked it.
>
> Well Harry Potter, take a look at Imperial College.  Built on reason, not
> some religion.  Even Newton came from the more advanced Cambridge not
> Oxford.  Of course Newton was highly religious as shown in his Principia
> (and don't forget about the apocalypse of 2060).  I'll leave Oxford and all
> that circular philosophy to you.  Give me Science and Technology any day,
> now there's a philosophy.
>
> Helps me to understand where you are coming from, though.
>
> Mark
>
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