[MD] Is this the inadequacy of the MOQ?

[MarshaV]

Hi John,

Sorry, I misunderstood.  I thought you meant language as in 'words' or  
the English language. 


Marsha 
 
 



On Nov 28, 2010, at 2:26 PM, John Carl wrote:

> Hi Marsha,
> 
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:04 AM, MarshaV <valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> How do you know?  What is your evidence?  How can you be sure that
>> consciousness is nothing other than language?
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Well, as all these things boil down to how you define them, I suppose it all
> depends on how you define consciousness, and how you define language.  So
> since I'm obviously defining language as consciousness, then I don't need
> evidence so much as more explanation of what I mean by language.
> 
> As I define it, language is codified information, and, as per my recent
> exchange with Adrie and his take on information, all of reality is
> information, consciousness is real, therefore, consciousness is information.
> 
> As far as evidence goes, all of  my experience is evidence that
> consciousness is language.  The question I'd ask you is what evidence do you
> have of any consciousness that is not language?  The line between
> consciousness and non-consciousness  in MoQ terms, I'd put firmly in the
> divide between inorganic and biological.  That is, dna has a language, which
> allows for a rudimentary processing of input from the environment into
> choices made in responding to that environment.  Thus, when an amoeba shirks
> acid, it's "saying" in effect, "I don't like acid".  An amoeba's language
> represents its consciousness of its environment.
> 
> 
>> Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> p.s.  I didn't mean the word 'only' in a pejorative way, but in a 'nothing
>> other
>> than way'.
>> 
>> "nothing other than" is kinda pejorative, but not in a mean-spirited way
> but a logically limiting way.
> 
> John
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